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Having a look at BDMs in Kiltimagh in Mayo and Ivors/Ivers was a very common name.
There were multiple couples, all having children in the 1860's and many lived in the same area but they do look like they were all related?
I can't find any baptism for John at present but, most of the families that I found all had a son named Thomas.
The most obvious couple were called Thomas Ivors and Mary Walsh who married in 1856.
Thos Ivers
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 6 Feb 1856
Spouse's Name Mary Walsh
Parish Killedan
Diocese Achonry
County Mayo
First Witness John Doyle
Second Witness Mary Walsh
Household Members
Name Age
Thos Ivers
Mary Walsh
1901: 2 Corrahoor, Kiltmagh
Ivers Walter 28 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic
Ivers Margaret 25 Female Wife Roman Catholic
Ivers Thomas Male Son Roman Catholic
Ivers Thomas 71 Male Father Roman Catholic
Ivers Mary 65 Female Mother Roman Catholic
Thomas Ivers at 10 Corrahoor was also a son born to this couple
Ivers Thomas 33 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic
Ivers Anne 27 Female Wife Roman Catholic
Howlen John 60 Male Father in Law Roman Catholic
Benson Patrick 7 Male Cousin Roman Catholic
Other couples having children in the same time period:
Patrick Ivers and Catherine Carroll
John Ivers and Mary O' Donnell
John Ivers and Mary Phillips
Michael Ivers and Mary Walsh
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John Archer died in 1921 probate to his son, William John. Emma was now free to marry.
Name John Archer
Death Date 28 May 1921
Death Place Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Probate Date 12 Jul 1921
Registry London, England
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1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hill Wootton, Leek Wootton, Warwick, Warwickshire, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Hope Head - Male 45 1826 - Warwickshire, England
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Mary Ann Hope Wife - Female 47 1824 - Warwickshire, England
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George Hope Son - Male 13 1858 - Warwickshire, England
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Fanny Hope Daughter - Female 10 1861 - Warwickshire, England
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>>Emma E Hope Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Warwickshire, England
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hill Wootton, Leek Wootton, Warwick, Warwickshire, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Hope Head Married Male 55 1826 Ag Lab Leek Wootton, Warwickshire, England
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Mary Anne Hope Wife Married Female 58 1823 Ag Lab Wife Warwick, Warwickshire, England
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George Hope Son Single Male 22 1859 Ag Lab Leek Wootton, Warwickshire, England
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>>Emma Hope Daughter Single Female 17 1864 Dom Serv (Out Of Sitn) Leek Wootton, Warwickshire, England
I think this is them in 1891.
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Broad Street, Portsea, Portsea Island, Hampshire, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Aicher Head Married Male 27 1864 Carman Smithfield, Warwickshire, England
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>>Emma Aicher Wife Married Female 26 1865 Hill Wotton?
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William Aicher Son Single Male 4 1887 - Hampshire, England
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Lillian Aicher Daughter Single Female 0 1891 - Hampshire, England
John with his sons in 1901, still married though. By this time Emma is in Warwickshire saying she is single.
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
36, Ivy Street, Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Archer Head Married Male 27 1874 Carman Warwickshire, England
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William Archer Son - Male 14 1887 Shop Boy Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
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Frederick Archer Son - Male 7 1894 - Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
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Emma Burling Boarder Widow Female 28 1873 - Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
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Charles Burling Boarder - Male 7 1894 - Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Still described as married, Emma has, by this time, had another 2 children (possibly 3 if 1 had died) with John Ivers.
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
36 Ivy Street Southsea, Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
John Archer Head Married Male Carman 48 1863 Snitterfield Warwick
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William Archer Son Married Male Labourer H M Dockyard 26 1885 Portsmouth Hants
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Emma Bunting Housekeeper Widow Female Housekeeper 49 1862 Portsmouth Hants
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Charlie Bunting Boarder - Male Carman 17 1894 Portsmouth Hants
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Think you are correct Greyghost
John Ivers b 1865 to Patrick Ivers and Ann Lavan is not the person that Kaza is looking for.
The 1905 marriage does appear to be this one
The address & name of his father both match and a witness was called Patrick LAVAN who married his sister Catherine
Back to the drawing board then.
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Emma's marriage to John Archer?
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First name(s) EMMA ELIZA
Last name HOPE
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1886
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ EMMA ELIZA HOPE married one of these people
William John Privett, John Archer
District Portsea Island
District number -
County Hampshire
Country England
Volume 2B
Page 762
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Possibly the 1905 marriage of the John Ivers whose baptism safc posted yesterday.
Image shows Father is Pat Ivers a Farmer. Marriage 22.3.1905 at Kiltamagh RC chapel. John a Farmer resident in ?Cortoon.
Possibly resident Cartron, Mayo 1911 census - John a Farmer aged 45, Mary 35 and children Annie Kate 5, John Patrick 3 with his Father Pat 85 and sister Bridget 54
Party 1 Name JOHN IVERS
Party 2 Name MARY KELLY
Date of Event 22 March 1905
Group Registration ID 1906817
SR District/Reg Area Swinford
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Births to the couple can be found for free on
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl Enter Surname Ivers and Mothers surname Lethbridge and put range eg.1920-1950
and includes those shown on the 1939 register plus the closed record and a further birth in 1942
The 1939 register includes people born pre 1915 and those known to have died but were born after 1915 i.e. James JG, Kathleen who was Ivers but married a Nicholas and Thomas J, but excludes others (looks like a twin to Kathleen), showing them as closed records.
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Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1926 (>99%)
Boulter Elsie M Robbins Warwick 6d 1831
Ivers James Lethbridge Warwick 6d 1831 <<<<<
Lethbridge Jessie Ivers Warwick 6d 1831 <<<<
Robbins Harry Boulter Warwick 6d 1831
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Possibly James in 1939
Ivers Household (6 People)
36 Hill Street , Royal Leamington Spa M.B., Warwickshire, England
FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
James Ivers 18 Apr 1905 Male Driller Of Aircraft Work Married 103 1
Jessie Ivers 31 Aug 1903 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 103 2
James J G Ivers 06 Aug 1927 Male At School Single 103 3
Kathleen M Nicholas (Ivers) 27 Sep 1930 Female At School Single 103 4
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Thomas J Ivers 16 Jun 1939 Male Under School Age Single 103 6
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? Death of Mary Ivers Birth Reg. Q4 1906. The GRO site can't distinguish anything other than years - so this could be 4 weeks or 4 months
Name: Age at Death (in years):
IVERS, MARY 4 Order
GRO Reference: 1907 M Quarter in WARWICK Volume 06D Page 441
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Name: Patt Ivers
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Feb 1858
Spouse's Name: Ane Lavan
Parish: Killedan
Diocese: Achonry
County: Mayo
First Witness: John Lavan
Second Witness: Anne Graughe
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Leamington Spa Courier - Friday 03 April 1936
IVERS. —In loving memory our dear mother, Emma Ivers, who died March 31st 1926, also of our father, John Ivers, died May 16th, 1935. Ever in the thoughts of their Sons, Daughters-in-law and Grandchildren.
"Their life a beautiful memory. Their death a silent grief.”
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Births of children:
IVERS, THOMAS (mmn: HOPE)
GRO Reference: 1903 M Quarter in WARWICK Volume 06D Page 691
IVERS, JAMES (mmn: HOPE)
GRO Reference: 1905 J Quarter in WARWICK Volume 06D Page 674
IVERS, MARY (mmn: HOPE)
GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in WARWICK Volume 06D Page 641
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Emma's marriage banns:
Emma Eliza Hope
Event Type Bann
Marriage or Bann Date 6 Jun 1886
Marriage or Bann Place Leek Wootton, Warwickshire, England
Parish Leek Wootton
Spouse John Archer
?? Do you have the marriage certificate of John Ivers and Emma Archer??
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Ireland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms Transcription
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First name(s) John
Last name Ivers
Birth year -
Baptism year 1865
Baptism date 23 Jul 1865
Parish Killedan
Alternative parish names Kiltimagh
Diocese Achonry
County Mayo
Country Ireland
Father's first name(s) Pat
Father's last name Ivers
Mother's first name(s) Anne
Mother's last name Lavin
Repository National Library of Ireland
National Library of Ireland link http://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632343#page/1/mode/1up
Register Baptism
Record set Ireland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Ireland
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1911 for him? Married 9 years? 3 children born but 1 had died.
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
4 Hewitts Cottages Hill Street Leamington, Leamington, Warwickshire, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
John Ivers Head Married Male Farm Labouer 50 1861 Kiltmaugh Ireland
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Emma Ivers - Married Female - 47 1864 Wootton Warwickshire
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Thomas Ivers - - Male - 8 1903 War Hewitts Cottages Leamington
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James Ivers - - Male - 6 1905 War Hewitts Cottages Leamington
and the 1901.
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
24, John Street, Leamington, Leamington Priors, Warwick, Warwickshire, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Luke Clark Head Single Male 68 1833 Retired General Labourer Ireland
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Ann Phillips Boarder Widow Female 68 1833 Housekeeper Bath, Somerset, England
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Walter Kiss Boarder Widower Male 68 1833 Tailor Warwick, Warwickshire, England
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John Branaghan Boarder Single Male 58 1843 Rag & Bone Collector Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
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John Ivers Boarder Single Male 34 1867 General Labourer Ireland
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John Banbury Boarder Single Male 54 1847 Groom (Not Domestic) Leamington, Warwickshire, England
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David Shellard Boarder Single Male 62 1839 General Labourer Leamington, Warwickshire, England
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Emmer Archer Boarder Single Female 34 1867 Laundress Wootton, Warwickshire, England
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Looking for a John Ivers born about 1860 Kiltmaugh, County Mayo Ireland. Would like to know about any family and who he was married to before he came to England.
1901 Census has him living at 24 St John Court Leamington and Also, a widow. he married again 1923 to a Emma Archer.
Any help much appreciated.
Karen :-)
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