another daughter
Births Mar 1912 (>99%) Hartigan Margaret M Bradford Lambeth 1d 787a
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daughters marriage
Marriages Dec 1931 (>99%) Hartigan Kathleen F Triggs Lambeth 1d 590
Marriages Sep 1931 (>99%) Hartigan Eileen Lister Lambeth 1d 897
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death for fanny s c hartigan
Deaths Mar 1947 (>99%) Hartigan Fanny S C 72 Lewisham 5d 43
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this must be john joseph has there are no births with that name in uk that year
Deaths Sep 1931 (>99%) Hartigan John J 58 Holborn 1b 402
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There seem to have been several John Hartigans, of roughly the same age, in and around the Massachusetts area, with mothers named Margaret.
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Thank you all for your input. I will have a good look and see where it takes me.
In the meantime I have ordered the marriage cert
Gerry
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Birth of one child, picked at random, for mmn:
HARTIGAN, KATHLEEN FRANCES mmn BRADFORD GRO Reference: 1903 D Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 189
Marriages Jun 1901 (>99%) BRADFORD Fanny Sarah C Canterbury 2a 1775 HARTIGAN John Joseph Canterbury 2a 1775
?? John J Hartigan in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: John J Hartigan Death Age: 58 Birth Date: abt 1873 Registration Date: Jul 1931[Aug 1931] [Sep 1931] Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration District: Holborn Inferred County: London Volume: 1b Page: 402
John J Hartigan in the U.S., Army Transport Service Arriving and Departing Passenger Lists, 1910-1939 Name: John J Hartigan Departure Date: 15 Nov 1917 Departure Place: Newport News, VA Address: 80 Brown Ave Residence Place: Roslindale, Massachusetts Mother: Margaret Hartigan Ship: El Oriente Military Unit: Hdgs Co 101 Inf Rank: Private
??? John Joseph Hartigan in the U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Name: John Joseph Hartigan Race: White Birth Date: 14 Apr 1874 Residence Date: 1917-1918 Street Address: 422 E 52nd St Residence Place: Manhattan, New York, New York, USA Draft Board: 128 Physical Build: Medium Height: Tall Hair Color: Gray Eye Color: Gray Relative: Margaret Hartigan , 604 5th Ave.
Occupation: Freight Sorter, American Railway Export Coy. (fits 1911 census) <<<<
Occupation in 1911: Railway clerk, goods checker [ not "chicken" ! ]
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Name: John Hartigan Arrival Age: 22 Birth Date: abt 1872 Port of Departure: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA Arrival Date: 1894 Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England Ship Name: British Prence Official Number: 86164 Search Ship Database: Search for the British Prence in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
but he is a joiner
John Joseph Country England Last name Hartigan Register type Parliamentary Borough Year 1909 Archive The British Library Season - Archive reference SPR.Mic.P.540/BL.S.79 Residence 59 Grosvenor terrace Record set England & Wales, Electoral Registers 1910-1932 Polling district or place - Category Census, land & surveys Constituency P B of Newington, West Division Subcategory Electoral Rolls Constituency in full Parliamentary Borough of Newington, West Division Collections from Great Britain, England County London, Surrey
different occupation
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 41, Mulkern Road, Islington, London & Middlesex, England View original record Household members (7 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Frederick Sharpe Head Married Male 35 1866 Railway carman London, Middlesex, England Caroline Sharpe Wife Married Female 35 1866 - London, Middlesex, England Frederick Sharpe Son Single Male 9 1892 - London, Middlesex, England Walter L Sharpe Son Single Male 8 1893 - London, Middlesex, England Violet E Sharpe Daughter Single Female 4 1897 - London, Middlesex, England Dorothy Sharpe Daughter Single Female 0 1901 - London, Middlesex, England John Hartigan Boarder Single Male 28 1873 Cheesemonger United States
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Marriage cert will include father's details - if known
He states in 1911 that he's British, and the parents of the one in 1900 were born in Ireland, so that would fit.
BUT................proof is needed if you're to have an accurate tree
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Name: John Hartigan Record Type: Birth Birth Date: 7 Apr 1871 Birth Place: South Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, USA Father: John Hartigan Mother: Margt O'Neil
EDIT perhaps not....................in view of occupation, although that could have changed, of course 1900 census Name: John Hartigan Age: 26 Birth Date: Mar 1874 Birthplace: Massachusetts, USA Home in 1900: Boston Ward 13, Suffolk, Massachusetts Ward of City: 13 Street: E Street House Number: 365 Sheet Number: 3 Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation: 25 Family Number: 52 Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Son Marital Status: Single Father's Name: John Hartigan Father's Birthplace: Ireland Mother's Name: Margaret Hartigan Mother's Birthplace: Ireland Occupation: Horse Shoer******************************* Months Not Employed: 0 Can Read: Yes Can Write: Yes Can Speak English: Yes Neighbors: View others on page Household Members Age Relationship John Hartigan 65 Head...........................................Horse Shoer. Immigrated 1862. Not recorded as being Naturalized Margaret Hartigan 56 Wife Frank Hartigan 30 Son Mary Hartigan 30 Daughter John Hartigan 26 Son Agnes Hartigan 21 Daughter Annie Hartigan 9 Niece
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nearest i can find Name: John Hartigan Record Type: Birth Birth Date: 7 Apr 1871 Birth Place: South Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, USA Father: John Hartigan Mother: Margt O'Neil
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1911 fror refr
1911 Census For England & Wales 24 Dugdale St Kennington SE, Lambeth, London & Surrey, England View original record Household members (6 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John J Hartigan Head Married Male 38 1873 Railway clerk goods chicken Boston U S a Resident Fanny Hartigan Wife Married Female 37 1874 None Canterbury Kent Mabel Hartigan Daughter - Female 9 1902 - Upr Holloway Ld Nth Kathleen Hartigan Daughter - Female 8 1903 - Upr Holloway Ld Nth John J Hartigan Son - Male 6 1905 - Muswell Hill London Eileen Hartigan Daughter - Female 5 1906
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I can only find John in 1911 which says he was born 1873 in "Boston V S A" and was British.
He married Fanny in 1901 in Canterbury
I have no idea what the V S A means
Can you help please?
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