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Daniel Beckley 1791 - 1850 was my three times grandfather. The brickwall is - where did he come from before the family lived in Tubney and who were his ancestors? There is thought that he changed his name from the Beckinsales that lived in the Bampton, Aston area in Oxfordshire, in fact Ancestry suggests that this Daniel Beckinsale 1788 is my third times grandfather, but he has different descendants in other peoples family trees that i have checked.
One of Daniel Beckleys sons, Gabriel Beckley 1815 was born in Tubney (then Bekshire) is shown as Beckinsale on his marriage certificate in 1847which also shows his father' name to be Beckinsale. On their death certificates they are shown as Beckley.
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It may be that the 'trees' on Ancestry are based on false assumptions.
Many trees on that site are works of fiction, so unless you can verify their info, trust only your own research
On 1841 census, Daniel's birthplace is NOT Berkshire
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For INFO.............to help the helpers
Obviously, the birth year is 'rounded' as per instructions to enumerators for 1841 census
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Tubneys, Tubney, Abingdon, Berkshire, England
Daniel Beckley Male 50 1791 -
Elizabeth Beckley Female 45 1796 Berkshire, England
Gabriel Beckley Male 25 1816 Berkshire, England
David Beckley Male 15 1826 Berkshire, England
Stephen Beckley Male 14 1827 Berkshire, England
Mary Beckley Female 12 1829 Berkshire, England
Eliza Beckley Female 10 1831 Berkshire, England
Emma Beckley Female 8 1833 Berkshire, England
Thomas Beckley Male 4 1837 Berkshire, England
Gabriel's baptism records mother's name as Ann..........all of the others as Elizabeth
Name Daniel Beckley
Gender Male
Marriage Date 22 Nov 1813
Marriage Place Fyfield, Berkshire, England
Spouse Elizabeth Taylor
Witnesses Sibylla TAYLOR; Mary BROOKS
The man's death
BECKLEY, DANIEL 61
GRO Reference: 1850 J Quarter in ABINGDON Volume 06 Page 89
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Time-scale is certainly in line with age at death
First name(s) Daniel
Father's first name(s) Wm.
Last name Beckinsale
Father's last name Beckinsale
Sex Male
Mother's first name(s) Hester
Baptism year 1788
Record set Oxfordshire Baptisms
Baptism date 12 Oct 1788***********************************
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Place Bampton
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
County Oxfordshire
Collections from England, Great Britain
Country England
There is no ongoing info for the above using the name Beckinsale on either FMP or Ancestry
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Bampton Aston, Oxfordshire is not too far from Tubney now Oxfordshire then Berkshire.
Parish records for Tubney would be held in Berkshire.
I agree that you cannot take other peoples trees for the truth. Even the best researchers make mistakes. You need to follow through with the family you are sure of and do the research. I do know that Oxfordshire FHS records are very good, I don;t know how good the Berkshire ones are.
added. Don't forget that accents can make a bif difference to other people spellings one name.
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burial
Daniel
Place Tubney
Last name Beckley
Source Bishops' Transcript
Age 62
County Berkshire
Birth year 1788 ---------------------------
Country England
Residence Tubney
Record set Berkshire Burial Index
Death year 1850
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Burial year 1850
Subcategory Parish Burials
Burial date 03 Apr 1850
Collections from England, Great Britain
Church St Lawrence
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This MAY be the death of the man recorded as being Daniel's father..............
Name William Beckinsale
Death Age 88
Birth Date abt 1767
Burial Date 26 Sep 1855
Burial Place Bampton Aston, Oxfordshire, England
Parish as it Appears Bampton
Might be worth finding out if he left a Will.................
Name William Beckensale
Gender Male
Marriage Date 19 Apr 1786
Marriage Place Bampton,Oxford,England
Spouse Hester Beckensale
FHL Film Number 952336
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1851
William Beckensale [
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Age 34 [
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Estimated Birth Year [abt 1817] [abt 1777] [abt 1767] [
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Relation Father
Gender Male
Where born Aston, Oxfordshire, England
Civil parish Bampton
County/Island Oxfordshire
Country England
Registration district Witney
Sub-registration district Ensham
ED, institution, or vessel 5
Neighbors
Household schedule number 110
Piece 1731
Folio 249
Page number 24
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Ester Beckensale
45
Head
Thomas Beckensale
20
Son
Janas Beckensale
18
Son
James Beckensale
16
Son
Clen Beckensale
13
Daughter
Elza Beckensale
11
Daughter
Karriet Beckensale
8
Daughter
Gabred Beckensale
6
Son
William Beckensale 34 Father
1841
Wm Beckinsale
Age 70
Estimated Birth Year abt 1771
Gender Male
Where born Oxfordshire, England
Civil parish Bampton
Hundred Bampton
County/Island Oxfordshire
Country England
Registration district Witney
Sub-registration district Bampton
Neighbors
Piece 872
Book 3
Folio 8
Page number 9
Household Members (Name) Age
Wm Beckinsale 70
Esther Beckinsale
75
Esther Beckinsale
Death Age 88
Birth Date abt 1759
Burial Date 7 Feb 1847
Burial Place Bampton Aston, Oxfordshire, England
Parish as it Appears Bampton
from fmp
1851
Cote House, Hamlet of Aston & Cote in the Parish of Bampton, Witney, Oxfordshire, England
View original record
Household members (9 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Ester Beckensale Head
Widow Female 45 1806 Dairy woman Aston, Oxon, England
Thomas Beckensale Son
Unmarried Male 20 1831 Dairy woman son Aston, Oxon, England
Jonas Beckensale Son
Unmarried Male 18 1833 Ag lab Aston, Oxon, England
James Beckensale Son
Unmarried Male 16 1835 Ag lab Aston, Oxon, England
Elen Beckensale Daughter
- Female 13 1838 - Aston, Oxon, England
Eliza Beckensale Daughter
- Female 11 1840 Scholar Aston, Oxon, England
Harriet Beckensale Daughter
- Female 8 1843 Scholar Aston, Oxon, England
Gabriel Beckensale Son
- Male 6 1845 Scholar Aston, Oxon, England
William Beckensale Father
Widower Male 84 1767 Pauper Aston, Oxon, England
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Oxford FHS have transcribed a lot of wills. William 1767-1855 may be the nephew named in the will of another William Beckingsale in 1815.
Available on line from Oxf fhs
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A big thank you to everyone who answered my post.
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FWIW .................
it was not unusual for people to change the spelling of their surname even back then. It is still does not actually require any legal procedures. All someone has to do is to make it known to anyone who needs to know that "as from this date, I "John Smith" will be known as Bertie Smellworthy".
As long as there is no criminal intent, then no-one worries. I still see name changes like this regularly in our local newspaper.
Also FWIW, one of my ancestors changed the spelling of their name from Bucktrout to Buckright, then some descendants spelled it Buckwright.
My grandfather's grandfather changed the family name from Scholefield to Schofield. By the time grandfather came along, he had cousins where half the family went under Schofield and the others had reverted back to Scholefield.
TBH, I gave up on them!
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