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Carol
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16 Jun 2016 11:55 |
I am a virtual beginner to all this :-) I have been tracing my maternal side and looking at the 1911 census have found that my grandfather, then aged 18, was living with his father, two older sisters and an "illegitimate" baby girl aged 1. This is a complete surprise to me and grandads youngest daughter, my aunt. How on earth can I find out more about this child? Such as who was the father/mother? Did she survive?
Thanks for your time Carol
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PricklyHolly
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16 Jun 2016 12:02 |
Hi Carol
Can you give us the details of the 1911 census.
When and where was your Grandfather born......and who were his parents?
Perhaps the child belonged to one of the sisters?
A copy of the child's birth cert would tell you who the parent/parents were.
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Carol
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16 Jun 2016 12:08 |
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/record/viewimage?recordid=gbc/1911/rg14/17314/0079/4&mediaid=gbc/1911/rg14/17314/0079
Grandfather born 25/12/1893 Parents: William Blencowe and Theresa Carpenter. Still trying to find more about his mother. I believe she died quite young and that is why she is not on the 1911 census. Hope this helps
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16 Jun 2016 12:12 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 7 Black Lake West Bromwich, West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place William Blencowe Head Widower Male Carter 47 1864 Bicester Oxon Transcription Amelia May Carpenter Blencowe Daughter Single Female - 26 1885 Banbury Oxon Transcription Elizabeth Blencowe Daughter Single Female Envelope Machinist 22 1889 Westbromwich Stafs Transcription William Charley Blencowe Son Single Male Relief Stamper 18 1893 Westbromwich Stafs Transcription Elizabeth May Blencowe Illegitimate - Female - 1 1910 Westbromwich Staffs
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PricklyHolly
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16 Jun 2016 12:13 |
For info......
William Charles Blencowe in the 1911 England Census
Name: William Charles Blencowe Age in 1911:18 Estimated birth year: abt 1893 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: West Bromwich, Staffordshire Civil Parish:West Bromwich County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: 7 Black Lake, West Bromwich Marital Status: Single Occupation: Relief stamper Registration district: West Bromwich
Household Members:
William Blencowe 49 Amelia May Carpenter Blencowe 26 Elizabeth Blencowe 22 William Charles Blencowe 18 Elizabeth May Blencowe 1
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16 Jun 2016 12:15 |
Births Mar 1910 (>99%) BLENCOWE Elizabeth May W Bromwich 6b 869
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16 Jun 2016 12:26 |
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just because its the same area
England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription Print transcription View image First name(s) ELIZABETH M Last name BLENCOWE Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1928 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ ELIZABETH M BLENCOWE married JOHN T DAVIES Spouse's last name DAVIES District WEST BROMWICH District number - County Staffordshire Country England Volume 6B Page 1748 Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
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PricklyHolly
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16 Jun 2016 12:30 |
Father William is also a widower on the 1901 census.
This is wife Theresa's death registration.......
Deaths Jun 1898 (>99%) Blencow Theresa 35 W. Bromwich 6b 503
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Carol
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16 Jun 2016 12:32 |
Thank you, I'll try and move forward with this info. Is the 1921 census available online?
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PricklyHolly
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16 Jun 2016 12:39 |
No............not until 2021.
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16 Jun 2016 12:42 |
On the 1891 census, it gives Therea's year of birth as......1866 Banbury, Oxfordshire.
The death reg I posted gives her birth year as 1863
Theresa Blencow in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Theresa Blencow Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Registration Year: 1898 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Age at Death: 35 Registration district: West Bromwich Inferred County: Staffordshire Volume: 6b Page: 503
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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16 Jun 2016 12:47 |
this death would tie with the birth qtr
First name(s) ELIZABETH MAY Last name DAVIES Gender Female Birth day 1 Birth month 2 Birth year 1910 Age - Death quarter 1 Death year 1974 District WALSALL County Staffordshire Volume 9B Page 1991 Country England Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Deaths & burials Collections from Great Britain (c) brightsolid online publishing ltd
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PricklyHolly
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16 Jun 2016 12:48 |
Marriages Jun 1884 (>99%) Blencowe William Banbury 3a 1204 CARPENTER Theresa Banbury 3a 1204
There are no births registered for a Theresa Carpenter between 1882 and 1887
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Teresa Carpenter in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Teresa Carpenter Registration Year: 1866 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Banbury Inferred County:Oxfordshire Volume: 3a Page: 694
Do you know who her parents were?
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Carol
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16 Jun 2016 12:54 |
Thanks everyone! This is all a bit overwhelming for a beginner :-D Is it possible to view actual Birth. Marriage. Death certificates on here?
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PricklyHolly
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16 Jun 2016 12:58 |
No Carol.........not unless a parish record can be found.
The best place to purchase certificates is online here......
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
They cost £9.25
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PricklyHolly
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16 Jun 2016 13:08 |
This is a free site we all use to search for birth's, marriages and death registrations....
From Sep 1837 to about 1975ish
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
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PricklyHolly
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16 Jun 2016 13:38 |
Possibly Theresa/Teresa on the 1871 census......
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Tereser Carpenter in the 1871 England Census Name: Tereser Carpenter Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1866 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Joseph Carpenter Mother's name: Mary Carpenter Gender: Female Civil Parish: Neithrop Ecclesiastical parish: Banbury St Mary Town: Neithrop County/Island: Oxfordshire Country: England Registration district: Banbury Sub-registration district: Banbury
Household Members:
Joseph Carpenter 48 Banbury, Oxfordshire, England (News Agent) Mary Carpenter 46 Neithrop, Oxfordshire, England Josiah Carpenter 10 George Carpenter 7 Tereser Carpenter 5
Res: Factory Street
A copy of her marriage cert would confirm who her father was.
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Teresa Carpenter in the 1881 England Census Name: Teresa Carpenter Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1866 Relationship to Head: Daughter Mother: Mary Carpenter Gender: Female Where born: Neithrop, Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: Neithrop County/Island: Oxfordshire Country: England Street address: 28 Factory Street Occupation: Nursemaid Registration district: Banbury
Household Members:
Mary Carpenter 58 Banbury, Oxfordshire, England (Widow) No Occupation George Carpenter 16 Teresa Carpenter 15 Thomas Hughes 87 (Father) Widower
Living next door to a William and Mary Blencowe
Thomas Hughes is living next door to Joseph and Mary on the 1871 census.
Joseph Carpenter in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 Name: Joseph Carpenter Souse Name: Mary Ann Hughes Registration Year: 1845 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Banbury Inferred County: Oxfordshire Volume: 16 Page: 33
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16 Jun 2016 14:23 |
There were 8 children born to the Davies/Blencowe marriage.
2 girls and 6 boys.
You can check them out on the FreeBMD link I posted for you earlier.
Prickles 'o))
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16 Jun 2016 14:28 |
It seems the first child born died at the age of 6......
Edna M Davies in the England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005 Name:Edna M Davies Mother's Maiden Surname: Blencowe Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1929 Registration district: West Bromwich Inferred County: Worcestershire Volume Number: 6b Page Number: 1198
Edna M Davies in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Edna M Davies Birth Date: abt 1929 Date of Registration: Dec 1935 Age at Death: 6 Registration district: West Bromwich Inferred County: Staffordshire Volume: 6b Page: 730
The second child born didn't make it either.......... :-(
William E Davies in the England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005 Name: William E Davies Mother's Maiden Surname: Blencowe Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1932 Registration district: West Bromwich Inferred County: Staffordshire Volume Number: 6b Page Number: 1189
William E Davies in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: William E Davies Birth Date: abt 1932 Date of Registration: Mar 1932 Age at Death: 0 Registration district: West Bromwich Inferred County: Staffordshire Volume: 6b Page: 1032
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16 Jun 2016 15:08 |
1939 Register Davies Household (4 People) 36 Carris Brooke Road , West Bromwich C.B., Staffordshire, England
James C Davies 14 May 1937 Male Under School Age Single 351 4 John T Davies 01 Jan 1903 Male Iron Moulder Married 351 1 Ely M Davies 01 Feb 1910 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 351 2 Thomas W Davies 30 Apr 1933 Male At School Single 351 3
NB: Ely is actually Eliz
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