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Thank you Chris. I have added this to the file. They are all cousins at some level but I wouldn't fancy trying to work it out - all down to Absolom Baker Vellam and his two wives!

(oh what!, lol, well below Marriage relates then!)

Were did you get Willam Weston from anyway?...

Chris :)

edits (reading back on link posted for connecting 'Thread', just to say Marriage 1902 for Lucy King/Alfred Vellam 1902 Islington, on Ancestry, London, gives his Father, Charles Vellam, occ. Labourer, a witness named William Vellam. Alfred age 25, occ. Builder. Lucy King age 26, Father, Matthew King, occ. Labourer. Seeing as Frances made mention)

1939 Register (Find My Past)

78 Wellesley Road , Brentford and Chiswick M.B., Middlesex
Lucy M Vellam 28 Jan 1875 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Alfred Vellam 28 Jul 1877 Male Carman Contractor Brentford Market


Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place Crowland
Church name St Guthlac
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 194
Burial date 31 Oct 1929
Person age 65
Burial person forename Charles Betts
Burial person surname VELLAM
Burial person abode The Common,Croyland


1939 Register (Find My Past)

Peacock Farm Crowland Common , Spalding R.D., Lincolnshire
Hannah E Vellam 12 Jan 1873 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 15 1
Arthur B Vellam ? Sep 1901 Male Smallholder Single


Births Dec 1901 (>99%)
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Vellam Arthur Bertie Newmarket 3b 493

Hi Guys,
Sorry but I thought I had checked this thread but it must have been before you all got busy!
Thanks for all your posts but the wannabe cousin has just emailed me to say she is not interested in the Vellams and was just using them to get at her Kings - still it was fun while it lasted - lol

Ooops!

Did I get the wrong William for the 1939 Register

Think it's the fact that Frances posted birth for William W that 'threw' things, will see what she says, or confirms from Certs., to work back with...

Chris :)

edits (reading back on link posted for connecting 'Thread', just to say Marriage 1902 for Lucy King/Alfred Vellam 1902 Islington, on Ancestry, London, gives his Father, Charles Vellam, occ. Labourer, a witness named William Vellam. Alfred age 25, occ. Builder. Lucy King age 26, Father, Matthew King, occ. Labourer. Seeing as Frances made mention)

1939 Register (Find My Past)

78 Wellesley Road , Brentford and Chiswick M.B., Middlesex
Lucy M Vellam 28 Jan 1875 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Alfred Vellam 28 Jul 1877 Male Carman Contractor Brentford Market


Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place Crowland
Church name St Guthlac
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 194
Burial date 31 Oct 1929
Person age 65
Burial person forename Charles Betts
Burial person surname VELLAM
Burial person abode The Common,Croyland


1939 Register (Find My Past)

Peacock Farm Crowland Common , Spalding R.D., Lincolnshire
Hannah E Vellam 12 Jan 1873 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 15 1
Arthur B Vellam ? Sep 1901 Male Smallholder Single


Births Dec 1901 (>99%)
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Vellam Arthur Bertie Newmarket 3b 493


(Father Charles B, below)

Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place Crowland
Church name St Guthlac
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 2100
Burial date 11 Aug 1916
Person age 84
Burial person forename Charles Betts
Burial person surname VELLAM
Burial person abode Croyland

Sorry Chris- yes my mistake. Yes William W not the WIlliam from the 1881 that Kath posted @ 9 Jul 2016 10:44.

:-D

Sorry AQ, I thought Frances was following back from 1881 that Kath posted earlier, that William was born 1879, his Grandfather would be Nathaniel Vellam)...


(below look to relate somewhere to William W one)

Marriages Dec 1837 (>99%)
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Land Charles Peterborough 15 595
WESTON Ann Peterboro' 15 595


It's below, that she seems connected to, leads back to Charles Betts...

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1349394


(am I missing something?, lol, fiddlin' outside in garden at moment, so not ignoring, if you come back!)

Chris :)

edits (if William Weston is connected, I have Meldreth Parish cd, if anything to help!)

(checked above for WW Marriage 1894 Meldreth, Cambs., Mary Blows, his Father Absolom Baker, occ. Labourer)

1881- he's still with his grandparents, listed as William Weston:

Name: William Weston
[William Weston Vellam]
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relationship to Head: Grandson
Mother: Susehaner Lourd
Gender: Male
Where born: Whaplode Drove, Lincoln, England
Civil Parish: Whaplode Drove
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Street address: Whapload Bank
Registration district: Holbeach
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Piece: 3207 Folio: 78 Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Lourd 65
Susehaner Lourd 60
Susehaner Lourd 28
William Weston 11
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1891:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Love Lane, Spalding, Lincolnshire, England

Rebecca Harby Head Single Female 46 1845 Laundress Spalding, Lincolnshire,
William Weston Vellam Lodger Single Male 21 1870 Brewers Drayman Postland Lincolnshire,
Mary A Blackburn Niece Single Female 18 1873 Assistant In Laundry Lincolnshire,
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1901:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Chiswick End, Meldreth, Meldreth (Cambs), Royston, Hertfordshire, England

William Vellam Head Married Male 31 1870 Railway Porter Postland, Lincolnshire,
Mary Vellam Wife Married Female 33 1868 - Meldreth, Cambridgeshire,
Margaret M Vellam Daughter - Female 6 1895 - Meldreth, Cambridgeshire,
Ernest W Vellam Son - Male 5 1896 - Meldreth, Cambridgeshire,
Arthur R Vellam Son - Male 3 1898 - Meldreth, Cambridgeshire,

Not sure what you mean Chris- 'not sure about William Weston one' -1871 for William Weston Vellam posted above.

1911 (matching 1939 details posted by Gins above):

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Meldreth Royston Hertfordshire, Meldreth, Hertfordshire, England

William Weston Vellam Head Married Male Railway Porter 41 1870 Lincolnshire Postland
Mary Vellam Wife Married Female - 43 1868 Cambridgeshire Meldreth
Ernest William Vellam Son Single Male Farm Labourer 15 1896 Cambridgeshire Meldreth
Arthur Ronald Vellam Son - Male Farm Labourer 13 1898 Cambridgeshire Meldreth
Sarah Ann Vellam Daughter - Female School 9 1902 Cambridgeshire Meldreth
Fanny Rachel Vellam Daughter - Female School 9 1902 Cambridgeshire Meldreth

Not sure about William Weston one?, looking at 1881, 1891, think below would fit...

Births Sep 1879 (>99%)
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Vellam William Peterbro' 3b 251

(could be one going to Canada 1917 and 1951. 1901, Islington, with Brother Alfred, Charteris Road, same address as 1902 Alfred/Lucy King Marriage)

Chris :)

Thought that these may be helpful to you:


1939 Register(s)

Vellam Household (2 People)
No 19 Barrington Gate,Fen Road,Holbeach , East Elloe R.D., Lincolnshire (Parts of Holland), England

George Vellam 16 Oct 1873 Male Poultry Farmer Retired Married 80 1
Helen Vellam 27 Dec 1868 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 80 2
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Vellam Household (2 People)
Bridge Street , Welton R.D., Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey), England

Richard J Vellam 04 Sep 1867 Male Fish Fryer Married 306 1
1 more person who is officially closed
Emily Vellam 05 Apr 1869 Female Fish Fryer Married 306 2
1 more person who is officially closed
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Vellam Household (3 People)
Cottage , South Cambridgeshire R.D., Cambridgeshire, England

William W Vellam 10 Feb 1870 Male Farm Labourer Married 194 1
Mary Vellam 04 Jan 1868 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 194 2
Ann Smith 04 Jun 1850 Female Housekeeper Retired Single 194 3
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Vellam Household (2 People)
5 Low Roads , Spalding U.D., Lincolnshire (Parts of Holland), England

Frank Vellam 22 Aug 1878 Male Agricultural Labourer Married 74 1
Eliza A Vellam 23 Feb 1882 Female Land Worker Married 74 2

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

(seems to be a lot on above link!)


(others below from 1881, Henry missing so far!)

Births Sep 1871 (>99%)
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VELLUM Susannah Peterbro' 3b 231/4
VELLUM Susannah Peterbro' 3b 234


Births Mar 1876 (>99%)
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VELLAM Mary Elizabeth Peterbro' 3b 260


Births Sep 1877 (>99%)
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Vellam Alfred Peterbro' 3b 240


Births Sep 1879 (>99%)
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Vellam William Peterbro' 3b 251


Births Sep 1879 (>99%)
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Vellam William Peterbro' 3b 251


Chris :)


(for Betts one)

Baptism
County Lincolnshire
Place Crowland
Church name Sts Mary Bartholomew and Guthlac
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 259
Baptism date 30 Jun 1833
Person forename Charles Betts
Person sex M
Person abode Crowland
Father forename Nathaniel
Father surname VELLAM
Father occupation Collar maker
Mother forename Susannah


County Lincolnshire
Place Crowland
Church name St Guthlac
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 204
Marriage date 30 Jul 1824
Groom forename Nathanial Betts
Groom surname VELLAM
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom abode Crowland
Groom parish Crowland
Bride forename Susannah
Bride surname JACKSON
Bride condition Spinster
Bride abode Crowland
Bride parish Crowland
Witness Richard JACKSON
Witness Mary Betts
Register note By Banns With Consent Of Parents.


1911 (Find My Past)
Charles Betts Vellam Head Married Male Labourer 79 1832 Crowland
Ethizabth Mary Vellam Wife Married Female - 69 1842 Crowland
Address Albion Street Crowland P-Boro
Census reference RG14 PN 8716 RG78 PN451 RD170 SD3 ED10 SN300
(says Married 50yrs, 8 children born, 8 living)


1901 (Find My Past)
Charles Vellone Head Married Male 69 1832 General Farm Labourer Crowland, Yorkshire, England
Elizabeth Mary Vellone Wife Married Female 59 1842 - Crowland, Yorkshire, England
Absolam Vellone Son Single Male 39 1862 General Farm Labourer Yorkshire, England
Florence Ellen Vellone Grand Daughter - Female 9 1892 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England (Daughter of Son Richard)
Street Albion Street
Town
Crowland City
County Northamptonshire
Registration district Peterborough
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 1468
Folio 37
Page 12


1891 (Find My Past)
Charles Vellam Head Married Male 57 1834 Farm Labourer Crowland, Lincolnshire, England
Elizabeth Vellam Wife Married Female 49 1842 - Crowland, Lincolnshire, England
Mary Vellam Daughter Single Female 15 1876 General Servant Domestic Crowland, Lincolnshire, England
Alfred Vellam Son - Male 14 1877 Farm Labourer Crowland, Lincolnshire, England
William Vellam Son - Male 12 1879 Farm Labourer Crowland, Lincolnshire, England
House name Private House
Street Albion Street
Parish Crowland
County Northamptonshire
Registration district
Peterborough
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 1232
Folio 129
Page 14


1871 (Find My Past)
Charles Vellum Head - Male 37 1834 - Lincolnshire, England
Elizabeth Vellum Wife - Female 29 1842 - Lincolnshire, England
Absolam Vellum Son - Male 8 1863 - Lincolnshire, England
Charles Vellum Son - Male 6 1865 - Lincolnshire, England
Richard Vellum Son - Male 3 1868 - Lincolnshire, England
Street Poors Lane
Parish Crowland
County Northamptonshire
Registration district Peterborough
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 1520
Folio 36
Page 22


(first Marriage of Charles Betts below)


County Lincolnshire
Place Crowland
Church name St Guthlac
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 484
Marriage date 05 Jul 1857
Groom forename Charles
Groom surname VELLAM
Groom age 32
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom abode Croyland
Groom occupation Laborer
Bride forename Rhoda Ann
Bride surname PRIDMORE
Bride age 19
Bride condition Spinster
Bride abode Croyland
Bride occupation Servant
Groom father forename Nathaniel
Groom father surname VELLAM
Groom father occupation Laborer
Bride father forename John
Bride father surname PRIDMORE
Bride father occupation Laborer
Witness Richard VELLAM
Witness Elizabeth FOSSET


Baptism
County Lincolnshire
Place Crowland
Church name Sts Mary Bartholomew and Guthlac
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 1505
Baptism date 25 May 1858
Person forename Alfred Charles
Person sex M
Person abode Croyland
Father forename Charles
Father surname VELLAM
Father occupation laborer
Mother forename Rhoda
Register note ceremony performed by J Bates mother buried same day


Deaths Jun 1858 (>99%)
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Vellam Rhoda Peterbro' 3b 135


edits

(his Son Charles, on below, one who Married Hannah Elizabeth King)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1349394

FreeReg Baptism entry on 09 Jul 2016
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Field Value
County Lincolnshire
Place Crowland
Church name Sts Mary Bartholomew and Guthlac
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 1952
Baptism date 08 Dec 1862
Person forename Absalom Betts
Person sex M
Person abode Croyland
Father forename Charles
Father surname VILLAM
Father occupation baker
Mother forename Elizabeth
Witness
Witness
Register note ceremony performed by J Bates
Transcriber notes

FreeReg Marriage entry on 09 Jul 2016
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Field Value
County Lincolnshire
Place Crowland
Church name St Guthlac
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 65
Marriage date 08 Oct 1861
Groom forename Charles Betts
Groom surname VELLAM
Groom age 26
Groom condition Widower
Groom abode Croyland
Groom occupation Baker
Bride forename Elizabeth Mary
Bride surname SMITH
Bride age 19
Bride condition Spinster
Bride abode Croyland
Bride occupation Servant
Groom father forename Nathaniel Betts
Groom father surname VELLAM
Groom father occupation Laborer
Witness Thomas HODSON
Witness Ann CHAPMAN
Register note
Transcriber notes

George Vellam

England and Wales Birth Registration Index

Name George Vellam
Event Type Birth Registration
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year 1873
Registration District Peterborough
County Northamptonshire
Event Place Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England
Volume 3B
Page 241
Line Number 170

As always posts are sneaking up on me while I am doing my one finger typing!
The Vellam family are a bit like rabbits in this area and second marriages help to swell the numbers so finding who belongs to whom takes time!
I am copying out all your posts for in depth investigation later.
As always there is a wannabe cousin behind it all!

Thank you Kath, plenty of the names match so now I have the parents which I will try and take back to link with the rest of my Vellam family

and William Weston Vellam:

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Postland Road, Crowland, Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England

Charles Land Head - Male 55 1816 - Lincolnshire, England
Ann Land Wife - Female 56 1815 - Lincolnshire, England
Rachel Vellum Daughter - Female 20 1851 - Lincolnshire, England
Susannah Land Daughter - Female 18 1853 - Lincolnshire, England
David Land Son - Male 15 1856 - Lincolnshire, England
William W Vellum Grandson - Male 1 1870 - Lincolnshire, England

Possibly the 1861 census for Alfred so possibly some of the births you have are for different families:-

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Back Street, Spittlegate, Grantham, Lincolnshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Alfred Vellam Head Married Male 29 1832 ... Crowland, Lincolnshire, England
Jemima Vellam Wife Married Female 26 1835 - Spittlegate, Lincolnshire, England
Charles Vellam Son - Male 5 1856 - Spittlegate, Lincolnshire, England
Alfred Vellam Son - Male 2 1859 - Spittlegate, Lincolnshire, England<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mary Vellam Sister - Female 20 1841 ... Crowland, Lincolnshire, England

Kath. x

this could be the George:

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Mill Lane, Whaplode, Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England

Absalom Baker Vellam Head Married Male 32 1849 Agr Lab Moulton, Lincolnshire, England
Rachel Vellam Wife Married Female 30 1851 - Whaplode Drove, Lincolnshire, England
George Vellam Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar Crowland, Lincolnshire, England
Charles Vellam Son Single Male 5 1876 - Whaplode, Lincolnshire, England
Frank Vellam Son Single Male 2 1879 - Whaplode, Lincolnshire, England
Ann Laud Boarder Married Female 68 1813 Nurse Crowland, Lincolnshire, England