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Terence
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12 Jul 2016 16:43 |
Hi,everybody.Looking for help re.George.I found a marriage to a Jane Ann Charlton in1867,Auckland,1st Q I believe she was the daughter of Thomas Charlton and Jane Graham.Various trees on Ancestry have Jane Ann married to George Lowes,Nicholas McCourt and George Luke,but no George Minikin.Can anybody help to find the right marriage.Am I following the correct families of Charlton and Minikin??All help appreciated. Cheers,Terry L.
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12 Jul 2016 16:53 |
These are the closest births for a George around 1842 in Durham.
How have you worked back to George and at what point are you sure you have identified him as the correct person i.e. census - please give all details that you know so we can perhaps follow him and discover what you want to know
England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription
First name(s) GEORGE Last name MINIKIN Birth year 1841 Birth quarter 3 Registration month - Mother's last name - District DURHAM County Durham Country England Volume 24 Page 102
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First name(s) GEORGE Last name MINICAN Birth year 1841 Birth quarter 4 Registration month - Mother's last name - District EASINGTON County Durham Country England Volume 24 Page 103
EDIT _ there are 2 deaths in Auckland for a George Minikin , both 1872, both aged 30, but different GRO references.
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12 Jul 2016 16:59 |
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Bridge Street, Bishop Auckland, Auckland, Durham, England Robert Minikin Head - Male 61 1810 - Durham, England Isabell Minikin Wife - Female 55 1816 - Durham, England George Minikin Son - Male 29 1842 - Durham, England WIDOW William Minikin Son - Male 19 1852 - Durham, England John Minikin Son - Male 16 1855 - Durham, England Jane Minikin Granddaughter - Female 6 1865 - Durham, England Robert Minikin Grandson - Male 4 1867 - Durham, England Mary Minikin Visitor - Female 63 1808 - Durham, England
Deaths Mar 1870 Minikin Jane Ann 26 Auckland 10a 164
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12 Jul 2016 17:03 |
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Witton Le Wear, Auckland, Durham, England Thomas Charlton Head Married Male 39 1812 Coal Miner Chester Le Street, Durham, England Jane Graham Charlton Wife Married Female 29 1822 - Chester Le Street, Durham, England Matthew Charlton Son - Male 9 1842 Scholar Wingate, Durham, England Jane Ann Charlton Daur - Female 7 1844 Scholar Trimdon, Durham, England John Thomas Charlton Son - Male 6 1845 Scholar Shotley Bridge, Durham, England Isabella Charlton Daug - Female 3 1848 - Shotley Bridge, Durham, England Henry Charlton Son - Male - - - Durham, England Elizabeth Bridick Visitor Unmarried Female 19 1832 Servant Stanhope, Durham, England
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12 Jul 2016 17:14 |
My research started with a Mary Minikin who married my Great G'Father,Robert Liddle at Bishop Auckland Registry Office in 1863.She was the daughter of Robert Minikin,b.c.1811,Bishop Auckland and Isabella Robson,b.c.1815,Lanchester.I found the Minikin family in 1851,1861 and 1871. George was given as their eldest son. In 1871 George is shown,with Parents,as Widowed and there are 2 Grand children shown(.Possibly Georges children ?). Hope this helps a bit more. Cheers,Terry L.
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12 Jul 2016 17:27 |
George Minikin England Marriages, 1538–1973
birth:
1842
marriage:
16 March 1867
St. Anne'S, Auckland-St. Andrew, Durham, England
father:
Robert Minikin
spouse:
Jane Ann Charlton
other:
Edward Charlton
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12 Jul 2016 17:28 |
1861
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Robert Minikin Head Married Male 50 1811 Labourer Wolsingham, Durham, England Transcription Isabella Minikin Wife Married Female 46 1815 - Lanchester, Durham, England Transcription George Minikin Son Unmarried Male 19 1842 Fireman Durham, England Transcription Mary Minikin Daughter - Female 18 1843 Dressmaker Brandon, Durham, England Transcription Robt Minikin Son - Male 12 1849 Scholar Quarry Hill, Durham, England Transcription William Minikin Son - Male 10 1851 Scholar Durham, England Transcription John Minikin Son - Male 6 1855 Scholar Preston, Durham, England Transcription
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12 Jul 2016 17:29 |
George Minikin England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
birth:
1842
death:
1872
Auckland, Durham, England
Jane Ann Minikin England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
birth:
1844
death:
1870
Auckland, Durham, England
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12 Jul 2016 17:30 |
England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription Print transcription View image First name(s) ROBERT Last name MINKIN Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1841 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ ROBERT MINKIN married one of these people JANE GOLIGHTLEY, JANE BELL, ISABELLA ROBSON District DURHAM CENTRAL District number - County Durham Country England Volume 24 Page 85 Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
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12 Jul 2016 17:31 |
The grand-daughter Jane (in 1871) may or may not be George's child. If she was, she was born before the marriage - in 1865:
Jane Minikin in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Jane Minikin Registration Year: 1865 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Auckland Inferred County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 174
EDIT:
No, she wasn't George's child:
Jane Minikin in the 1881 England Census Name: Jane Minikin Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1865 Relationship to Head: Step Daughter Mother: Eliz. Stonehouse Gender: Female Where born: Bp Auckland, Durham, England Civil Parish: Whitworth County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address: 1 Villa St Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Auckland ED, institution, or vessel: 39 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4922 Folio: 69 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Peter W. Stonehouse 42 Eliz. Stonehouse 35 George W. Stonehouse 9 George Stonehouse 30 Jane Minikin 16 Rob. Minikin 13
Marriages Sep 1869 (>99%) MINIKIN Elizabeth Auckland 10a 214 STONEHOUSE Peter Watson Auckland 10a 214
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12 Jul 2016 17:34 |
George Minikin
mentioned in the record of Robert Minikin Name George Minikin Gender Male Wife Jane Ann Son Robert Minikin Name Robert Minikin Gender Male Christening Date 09 Jul 1867 Christening Place Etherley, Durham, England Father's Name George Minikin
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Maddie
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12 Jul 2016 17:42 |
could this be george's child
Robert Minikin England Births and Christenings Name Robert Minikin Gender Male Christening Date 09 Jul 1867 Christening Place Etherley, Durham, England Father's Name George Minikin Mother's Name Jane Ann Citing this Record
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NX83-5W5 : 30 December 2014), Robert Minikin, 09 Jul 1867; citing Etherley, Durham, England, reference item 2 p 57; FHL microfilm 1,514,666.
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ArgyllGran
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12 Jul 2016 17:51 |
Not if you mean the grandson Robert in 1871, Maddie.
As per my earlier post, he was the son of Elizabeth Miniken. I'm not sure whose wife she had been. George's brothers John & William are both unmarried in 1871. Other brother Robert might be this one in 1871, in which case he's also unmarried:
Robert Minikin in the 1871 England Census Name: Robert Minikin Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1849 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Durham, England Civil Parish: Brandon and Byshottles Ecclesiastical parish: Brancepeth Town: Hareholme County/Island: Durham Country: England Registration district: Durham Sub-registration district: St Oswald ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 17 Piece: 4961 Folio: 88 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age John Kennedy 33 Frances Kennedy 30 Robert Kennedy 9 Elizabeth A Kennedy 7 Frances Kennedy 5 Hannah J Kennedy 3 Mary Jane Kennedy 1 Robert Minikin 22
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12 Jul 2016 17:56 |
On the other hand, it's possible she wasn't anyone's widow, as George had a sister Elizabeth:
Eliz Minnican in the 1851 England Census Name: Eliz Minnican Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1845 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Robert Minnican Mother's name: Isabella Minnican Gender: Female Where born: Durham, England Civil Parish: Medomsley Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Durham Country: England Registration district: Durham(Street Indexed) Sub-registration district: Tanfield ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 2 Piece: 2389 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Robert Minnican 38 Isabella Minnican 34 George Minnican 10 Mary Minnican 8 Eliz Minnican 6 Robert Minnican 2
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12 Jul 2016 18:01 |
Could be Elizabeth in 1861 - image could read Minikin:
Elizabeth Miniker in the 1861 England Census Name: Elizabeth Miniker Age: 15 Estimated birth year: 1846 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Durham, England Civil Parish: Iveston Town: Iveston County/Island: Durham Country: England Registration district: Durham Sub-registration district: Lanchester ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 4 Piece: 3734 Folio: 4 Page Number: 1
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12 Jul 2016 18:07 |
Baptism County Durham Place Lanchester Church name All Saints Register type Bishop's Transcripts Register entry number 959 Baptism date 15 Aug 1841 Person forename George Person sex M Person abode Pontop high stables Father forename Robert Father surname MINIKAN Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Isabella
Baptism County Durham Place Wolsingham Church name St Mary and St Stephen Register type Bishop's Transcripts Baptism date 31 Dec 1809 Birth date 17 Oct 1809 Person forename Robert Person sex M Person abode Wolsingham Father forename Robert Father surname MINIKIN Father occupation Blacksmith Mother forename Mary Mother surname METCALF
Baptism County Durham Place Trimdon Church name St Mary Magdalen Register type Bishop's Transcripts Register entry number 351 Baptism date 11 Aug 1844 Person forename Jane Anne Person sex F Person abode Trimdon Father forename Thomas Father surname CHARLTON Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Jane
(not sure if relating, from below link)
http://www.freereg.org.uk/
Chris :)
(another also useful Durham, below)
http://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/
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Maddie
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12 Jul 2016 18:10 |
the Robert in 1871 was born Etherley as per baptism above
Robert Minikin England and Wales Census, 1871 Name Robert Minikin Event Type Census Event Date 1871 Event Place Bishop Auckland, Durham, England Enumeration District 3 Gender Male Age 4 Marital Status Unmarried Relationship to Head of Household Grandson Birth Year (Estimated) 1867 Birthplace Etherley, Durham Entry Number 12 Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/4923/0130 Household Role Gender Age Birthplace Robert Minikin Head M 61 Wolsingham, Durham Isabell Minikin Wife F 55 Lanchester, Durham George Minikin Son M 29 High Stabler, Durham William Minikin Son M 19 Billingside, Durham John Minikin Son M 16 Leadgate, Durham Jane Minikin Granddaughter F 6 Bishop Aukland, Durham Robert Minikin Grandson M 4 Etherley, Durham Mary Minikin Visitor F 63 Wolsingham, Durham
i am confused ??? were Jane and George brother and sister ?????
1881
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 1, Villa Street, Whitworth, Auckland, Durham, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Peter W Stonehouse Head Married Male 42 1839 Blacksmith West Auckland, Durham, England Transcription Eliz Stonehouse Wife Married Female 35 1846 - Brandon, Durham, England Transcription George W Stonehouse Son Single Male 9 1872 - Bishop Auckland, Durham, England Transcription George Stonehouse Brother Single Male 30 1851 Labourer West Auckland, Durham, England Transcription Jane Minikin Step Daughter Single Female 16 1865 Scholar Bishop Auckland, Durham, England Transcription Rob Minikin Nephew Single Male 13 1868 Scholar Toft Hill, Durham, England
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12 Jul 2016 18:50 |
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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 2 West Avenue Woodlands Doncaster, Adwick Le Street, Yorkshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place Robert Minikin Head Married Male Miner Roadman 42 1869 Eatherley B Patrickland Durham England Transcription Emma Minikin Wife Married Female - 52 1859 Hansworth Woodhouse Derbyshire England Transcription George Minikin Son Single Male Lamp Man 19 1892 Wombwell Yorkshire England Transcription Dora Minikin Daughter Single Female Home 16 1895 Wombwell Yorkshire England
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1939 Register Transcription
Minikin Household (1 Person) 4 Green Lane , Adwick-le-Street U.D., Yorkshire (West Riding), England Attach to tree View original image Print First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Robert Minikin 04 Apr 1867 Male Retired - Telephone Operator Widowed 237 1
ROBERT Last name MINNIKIN Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1867 Age 86 Death quarter 4 Death year 1953 District DONCASTER County Yorkshire Volume 2B Page 410 Country England Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Deaths & burials Collections from Great Britain
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12 Jul 2016 21:50 |
You're quite right, Maddie.
I didn't look closely enough at the 1881 Stonehouse/Miniken census, and assumed that young Robert was Jane's brother, but they're cousins, as you rightly pointed out, and Robert is George's son.
Just to add to Elizabeth's story, here she is in 1871:
Peter Watson Stonehouse in the 1871 England Census Name: Peter Watson Stonehouse Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Stonehouse Gender: Male Where born: West Auckland, Durham, England Civil Parish: Auckland St Andrew Ecclesiastical parish: Auckland St Andrew Town: Woodhouse County/Island: Durham Country: England Registration district: Auckland Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Household schedule number: 18 Piece: 4927 Folio: 73 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Peter Watson Stonehouse 30 Elizabeth Stonehouse 25 Elizabeth Stonehouse 1
And the death of young Elizabeth:
Deaths Jun 1879 (>99%) Stonehouse Elizabeth 9 Auckland 10a 98
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13 Jul 2016 07:46 |
According to the marriage Jane's father was Edward (not Thomas as suggested in your opening post)
Name: George Minikin Gender: Male Marital Status: Single Age: 25 Birth Date: 1842 Marriage Date: 16 Mar 1867 Marriage Place: St. Anne'S, Auckland-St. Andrew, Durham, England Father: Robert Minikin Spouse: Jane Ann Charlton (age 23) Spouse Father: Edward Charlton FHL Film Number: 1894181 Reference ID: 230 ----------------------------------------
Jane's burial?:
Name: Jane Ann Minikin Gender: Female Age: 26 Birth Date: 1844 Burial Date: 30 Mar 1870 Burial Place: Etherly, Durham, England FHL Film Number: 1514667 Reference ID: It6 p70 No 557
Death index: Name: Jane Ann Minikin Estimated birth year: abt 1844 Registration Year: 1870 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 26 Registration district: Auckland Inferred County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 164 -----------------------------------------------
Jane's baptism?:
England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Transcription First name(s) Jane Ann Last name Charlton Gender Female Baptism year 1844 Baptism date 06 Apr 1844 Residence Etherley, Durham, England Place Etherley County Durham Father's first name(s) Edward Father's last name Charlton Mother's first name(s) Ann Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
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