I'm loking for this guy: Births Jun 1875 (>99%) Watkin William Wigan 8c 3
He's with his family in 1881, but missing thereafter. I think this is his death: Deaths Mar 1918 (>99%) Gwatkin William 42 Lancaster 8e 974
1881 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKXF-J91X Event Place Standish With Langtree, Lancashire, England Residence Note Whitelake Row Edward Gwatkin Head M 27 Dean Forest, Gloucestershire, England Coal Miner Elizabeth Gwatkin Wife F 27 Wigan, Lancashire, England Mary Gwatkin Daughter F 7 Standish, Lancashire, England William Gwatkin Son M 5 Standish, Lancashire, England Annie Gwatkin Daughter F 3 Standish, Lancashire, England Thomas Gwatkin Son M 1 Standish, Lancashire, England Ann Clark Boarder F 59 Ashton, Lancashire, England
1891 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:77BZ-XMM Parish Standish With Langtree Ecclesiastical Parish ST ANNE SHEVINGTON Residence Note Top Row Registration Number RG12 Piece/Folio 3045/ 85 Page Number 11 Thomas Taylor Head M 26 Lancashire, England Collier Elizabeth Taylor Wife F 38 Lancashire, England Mary Gwatkin Daughter F 18 Lancashire, England Spinner Fanny Gwatkin Daughter F 14 Lancashire, England Spinner Thomas Gwatkin Son M 12 Lancashire, England Ann Gwatkin Daughter F 10 Lancashire, England John Gwatkin Son M 5 Lancashire, England
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I do have possible hits in 1891 and 1911 I'ld be grateful if someone could provide further details of these censuses, especially what sort of institution he was in and his 1891 birthplace Also, any help with 1901 would be welcome.
1891 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q1KT-8N2 Name William Gwatkin Event Type Census Event Date 1891 County Lancashire Parish Lancaster Ecclesiastical Parish CHRISTCHURCH Registration District Lancaster Gender Male Age 16 Marital Status Single Relationship to Head of Household Patient Birth Year (Estimated) 1875 Birthplace Lancashire, England Page Number 33 Registration Number RG12 Piece/Folio 3468/ 81
1911 Ancestry Name Parent or spouse names Birth Year Birth Place Relation Residence W G abt 1875 Wigan, Lancashire, England Patient Lancaster, Lancashire
FMP First name(s) Last name Birth year Birth place Registration district Parish County W G 1875 Lancs Wigan Lancaster Lancaster Lancashire
Ancestry treats W G as his forename - FMP treats W as his forename and G as his surname I looked in piece 255555 (which is the institutions piece for Lancaster).
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Footnote As a surname, Gwatkin roughly means Walter's kin. At this point, I realized I'd no idea what kith meant. Well, it means friends, but it's obsolete except for the phrase "kith and kin".
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The 1891 census he was born in Wigan and is listed as an 'idiot' (all others on the page are listed as lunatic) so I think it would be a mental asylum. 'None' listed as his profession
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The County Lunatic Asylum on Lancaster Moor, opened in 1816 and since enlarged, is a stately quadrangular building of stone, with a handsome front, relieved by pillars of the Doric order, and will hold 1,200 patients. The annexe, completed in 1882 at a cost of 125,000, occupies a site comprising an area of about 41 acres. The buildings are constructed of stone; in the centre of the block over the main entrance is a clock tower about 100 feet in height, and there are smaller ones at the front, extremity of each wing: the building also includes a fine dining hall 120 feet long by 60 feet wide and 60 feet high: this annexe provides additional space for about 900 patients: David Mackay Cassidy M.D., D.Sc., L.R.C.P. & F.R.O.S. Edin. Medical superintendent; Thomas Philip Cowen M.D
http://forebears.co.uk/england/lancashire
(For 1911 Census, Name of Asylum must have been above, as Thomas Philip Cowen was 'Assistant Medical Officer' going back quite a few pages to see!)
WG. Single. Personal Occupation Column, (just a dash) Infirmity Column. Idiot 3yrs
Chris :)
edits (and of course you don't need me to refer you to below, lol)
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1918
GWATKIN William 42 Lancaster Preston LAN/105/76
(For 1901, if any help, according to above (Wigan/Leigh Registers) could be more Taylor Births perhaps? (Mother Maiden Name Roscoe)
1893 Richard Taylor 1897 Thomas Taylor 1901 Mary Taylor 1901 Ada annie Taylor 1901
(and Daughter Fanny below, from 1891 above)
Marriage: 5 Aug 1899 St Andrew, Wigan, Lancs. Edward Ellison - 19 Dataller Bachelor of 360 Woodhouse Lane Fanny Gwatkin - 22 Spinner Spinster of Beech Hill Lane Groom's Father: John Ellison, Fireman Bride's Father: Edward Gwatkin, (dec'd), Contractor Witness: Thomas Gwathin; Elizabeth Ellen Ellison Married by Banns by: W.A.Wickham Vicar Register: Marriages 1883 - 1917, Page 57, Entry 113 Source: Original register at Wigan Archives
1901 (Find My Past) Thomas Taylor Head Married Male 35 1866 Coal Miner Hewer Standish, Lancashire, England Elizth Taylor Wife Married Female 48 1853 - Wigan, Lancashire, England Edith A Taylor Daughter Single Female 10 1891 - Standish, Lancashire, England Thomas Gwatkin Son Single Male 21 1880 Colliery Labourer Below Ground Standish, Lancashire, England Ann Gwatkin Daughter Single Female 17 1884 Cotton Weaver Standish, Lancashire, England John Gwatkin Son Single Male 15 1886 Colliery Labourer Below Ground Hindley, Lancashire, England Annie MacNally Daughter Single Female 18 1883 Cotton Weaver Stockport, Lancashire, England Robert Thompson Son Single Male 16 1885 Colliery Labourer Below Ground Farnworth, Lancashire, England Street Beech Hill Lane Parish Wigan County Lancashire Municipal ward No 8 or St Andrew Registration district Wigan Archive reference RG13 Piece number 3557 Folio 92 Page 40
(no help with William though)
1901 (Find My Past) First name(s)Thomas Philip Last name Cowen Relationship Medical Officer Marital status Single Gender Male Age 33 Town Prestwich Parish Prestwich County Lancashire Municipal ward Prestwich North Registration district Prestwich Archive reference RG13 Piece number 3779 Folio 124 Page 1
(seems to be in Asylum?)
Prestwich according to below...
04 January 1902 - Manchester Courier and Lancashire General Advertiser
LUNACY IN LANCASHIRE. Dr. Thomas Philip Cowen, third assistant medical officer, Prestwich Asylum;
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it may help to get his death cert to see his address and the informant
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is this your William's baptism?
Baptism: 14 Feb 1876 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England William Watkin - [Child] of Edward Watkin & Elizabeth Born: 1 Apr 1875 Abode: Lower Ground Occupation: Collier
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