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there is this death for a joseph


Deaths Mar 1878 (>99%)

HAWLEY Joseph 43 Sheffield 9c 235

Thanks again ArgyllGran, that's fantastic! I think this is more than likely them as the boarder James Hibberd is also on the 1891 census with John Henry and Elizabeth and that would seem like a big coincidence.
Thank you to everyone for your help

Wondering about this family - the details seem very similar to the 1871 posted by safc and AnnCardiff.
Can't see them convincingly in other censuses. All born Sheffield.
Elizabeth (jr) in 1871 might be Annie E in 1881 ??:

John H. Holey
in the 1881 England Census
Name: John H. Holey
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relationship to Head: Son
Mother: Elizebeth Holey
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Ecclesall Bierlow
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: 59 Sheldon St.
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4636
Folio: 114
Page Number: 54
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizebeth Holey 42
Annie E. Holey 17 - stay busk fitter
Mary A. Holey 16 - stay busk maker
Joseph Holey 15 - table knife buffer
John H. Holey 11 - scholar
Emily Holey 10 - ditto
James Hibberd 35 - boarder


Re stay busks, for interest:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Busk


Possible births of children:

Births Sep 1862 (>99%)
HAWLEY Annie Elizabeth Sheffield 9c 339

There are several Mary Ann Hawley births around 1863 - 4.

Births Jun 1865 (>99%)
Hawley Joseph Sheffield 9c 334

Births Jun 1869 (>99%)
HAWLEY John Henry Sheffield 9c 361

Two possibilities for Emily:
Births Dec 1870 (>99%)
Hawley Emily Sheffield 9c 373
Births Mar 1871 (>99%)
Hawley Emily Sheffield 9c 391

NOTE:
I know there are also these births - but no Holey births matching the other children:
Births Dec 1871 (>99%)
Holey John Henry Sheffield 9c 387

Births Sep 1872 (>99%)
Holey Emily Sheffield 9c 378


Can't see a birth for Martha (in 1871 census) - I wonder if she's Emily?

Thank you ArgyllGran I hadn't thought to search for this other family in previous census to discount them. Back to drawing board re the 1881 census then.
Thank you AnnCardiff for your posts - I have John Henrys marriage to Annie Marie Downes in 1901 and his birth certificate showing Joseph and Elizabeth as his parents but can't seem to find a trace of them in 1881 so far

The 1881 posted by safc can be discounted. Here is that family in 1871:

John Thomas Hawley
in the 1871 England Census
Name: John Thomas Hawley
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's name: Joseph Hawley
Mother's name: Eliza Hawley
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Ecclesall Bierlow
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Sheffield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Sub-registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Household schedule number: 73
Piece: 4672
Folio: 82
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Hawley 23
Eliza Hawley 23
John Thomas Hawley 2
Mary Ann Hawley 6 Months
Walter Wood 20

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John Henry Hawley

England and Wales Marriage Registration Index




Name John Henry Hawley
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year 1901
Registration District Hunslet
County Yorkshire
Event Place Hunslet, Yorkshire, England
Volume 9B
Page 513
Line Number 336

John Henry Hawley probably married one of the following people

Name Annie Smithson

Thank you everyone for your help. The 1881 census above doesn't seem to tie in with either 1871 and 1891 with the ages of Joseph, Elizabeth (Eliza?) and Mary and none of the other children show on 1891. Would anyone be kind enough to advise which would be the best route forward on this.
Thank you all again

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
118, Young Street, Ecclesall Bierlow, Yorkshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Hawley Head Married Male 34 1847 Table Knife Hafter Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
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Eliza Hawley Wife Married Female 33 1848 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
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John T Hawley Son Single Male 12 1869 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
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Mary A Hawley Daughter Single Female 10 1871 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
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Annie E Hawley Daughter Single Female 8 1873 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
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Annie E Hawley Daughter Single Female 3 1878 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
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Willowby Hawley Son Single Male 5 1876 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
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Albert Hawley Son Single Male 0 1881 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

John Hy Hawley

England and Wales Census, 1891




Name John Hy Hawley
Event Type Census
Event Date 1891
County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding)
Parish Sheffield
Ecclesiastical Parish ST MARYS
Registration District Sheffield
Residence Note Shoreham Street
Gender Male
Age 21
Marital Status Single
Occupation Table Blade Forger
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1870
Birthplace Yorkshire, England
Page Number 22
Registration Number RG12
Piece/Folio 3823/ 120


Elizabeth Hawley Head F 52 Yorkshire, England
John Hy Hawley Son M 21 Yorkshire, England
James Hibbard Boarder M 48 Yorkshire, England

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Name John Hawley
Event Type Census
Event Date 31 Mar 1901
Event Place Ecclesall Bierlow, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Civil Parish Ecclesall Bierlow
Ecclesiastical Parish St Matthias
Sub-District Ecclesall Bierlow
Registration District Ecclesall Bierlow
Residence Note Napier Street
Gender Male
Age 32
Occupation TABLE KNIFE CUTLER
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1869
Birthplace Sheffield, Yorkshire
Schedule Type 26
Page Number 5


John Hawley Head M 32 Sheffield, Yorkshire
Sarah Ann Hawley Wife F 31 Sheffield, Yorkshire
Florence Hawley Daughter F 11 Sheffield, Yorkshire
Joe Hawley Son M 10 Sheffield, Yorkshire
Jack Hawley Son M 8 Sheffield, Yorkshire
Lily Hawley Daughter F 6 Sheffield, Yorkshire
Elizabeth Hawley Daughter F 1 Sheffield, Yorkshire

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Arundel Street, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Hawley Head - Male 32 1839 - Yorkshire, England
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Elizabeth Hawley Wife - Female 31 1840 - Yorkshire, England
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Elizabeth Hawley Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Yorkshire, England
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Mary Alice Hawley Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Yorkshire, England
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Joseph Hawley Son - Male 5 1866 - Yorkshire, England
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John Heny Hawley Son - Male 2 1869 - Yorkshire, England
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Martha Hawley Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Yorkshire, England

John Heny Hawley

England and Wales Census, 1871




Name John Heny Hawley
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place Sheffield, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Enumeration District 8
Gender Male
Age 2
Marital Status Unmarried
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1869
Birthplace Shefford, Yorkshire
Entry Number 14
Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/4685/0109


Joseph Hawley Head M 32 Shefford, Yorkshire
Elizabeth Hawley Wife F 31 Shefford, Yorkshire
Elizabeth Hawley Daughter F 9 Shefford, Yorkshire
Mary Alice Hawley Daughter F 7 Shefford, Yorkshire
Joseph Hawley Son M 5 Shefford, Yorkshire
John Heny Hawley Son M 2 Shefford, Yorkshire
Martha Hawley Daughter F 0 Shefford, Yorkshire

John Henry Hawley

England and Wales Census, 1901




Name John Henry Hawley
Event Type Census
Event Date 31 Mar 1901
Event Place Ecclesall Bierlow, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Civil Parish Ecclesall Bierlow
Ecclesiastical Parish St Silas
Sub-District Ecclesall Bierlow
Registration District Ecclesall Bierlow
Residence Note Thomas Street
Gender Male
Age 31
Occupation TABLE BLADE FORGER
Relationship to Head of Household Son-In-Law
Birth Year (Estimated) 1870
Birthplace Sheffield, Yorkshire
Schedule Type 91
Page Number 16


Emma Downes Head F 66 Sheffield, Yorkshire
Joseph Downes Son M 36 Sheffield, Yorkshire
John Thompson Grand Son M 19 Sheffield, Yorkshire
William Henry Downes Grand Son M 9 Sheffield, Yorkshire
John Henry Hawley Son-In-Law M 31 Sheffield, Yorkshire
Joseph Hawley Grand Son M 7 Sheffield, Yorkshire

Hi
Please could anyone help. I am searching for John Henry Hawley dob 1.5.1869 Sheffield on 1881 census with no success.
His mother is Elizabeth Hawley and father Joseph Hawley. I have found John Hy Hawley aged 21 living with his widowed mother Elizabeth age 52 and a boarder on the 1891 census living at Shoreham Street, Sheffield but have drawn a blank on the 1881 census. I do not have a date of death for Joseph (his father) at this time so he may or may not be on the census. If anyone could also help re Josephs death that would be a huge help too.
Any help would be very gratefully received
Thanks Sarah