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Robert

Robert Report 7 Aug 2016 06:16

Mary McKinnon Buchanan was born in Greenock, Scotland in 1902. She married George Elliott McDonnell, an electricaL engineer. They had a daughter ann elizabeth and migrated to Quebec on the MARBORN arriving in Quebec on 1/8/1924. Since then there is no trace of her. Maybe there are descendants in Canada, USA or elsewhere who can give me some information. My name is Robert Lamberton. I married Mary's niece, Sheila Gillespie.(mother Eliza Buchanan)

patchem

patchem Report 7 Aug 2016 07:00

Did you get the information about their arrival in Canada from Ancestry, as it shows further travel in 1925?

Mary McDonnell
Age: 23 Birth Country: Scotland
Date of Arrival: 5 Dec 1925 Vessel: Megantic
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Port of Departure: Greenock, Scotland

Travelling with her Annie Eliz (11 months) from Broadford, and Eliz McDonnell age 68, says Mother but Mother-in-law? as George not with them.

Could you remove your email address, as it is not allowed on this site. Thanks.

If Annie Elizabeth was 11 months in December 1925, she would not have been alive in August 1924.

Mary and Annie were going to George at Dome Mines, South Porcupine, Ontario.

Eliz was going to her daughter, Mrs Thorpe at Naples ?arm, RR3, Beamsvale, Ont.

Further information about nearest relatives in Scotland also on the list- Mary's aunt was Mrs K Kerr from Harrapool Broadford, Skye, and Eliz's sister was Mrs Stevenson from 3 Cornhaddock Street Greenock.

patchem

patchem Report 7 Aug 2016 07:08

A little bit of information about the Gold Mine:

http://www.ghosttownpix.com/ontario/towns/dome.html

patchem

patchem Report 7 Aug 2016 07:24

On the 1935 electoral list there are George Mc Donnell (electrician) and wife at Dome Mines (Cochrane, Ontario.)

As the list is alphabetical, there are also Mr and Mrs James McDonnell, who could be completely unrelated, but just in case his brother.

Added:
In 1945 the ER list has
McDonnell James
McDonnell Mrs Elizabeth
McDonnell George, electrician
McDonnell Mrs Mary

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 7 Aug 2016 07:27

1/8/1924 Outgoing (Find My Past) Ship 'Marburn' was George MCDonnell...
(Engineer. 29. Last UK Address as, 21, Trafalgar St., Greenock)


For Mary Mc.Donnell (Mrs.) outgoing 1925, with her Miss A. infant 11mths. Mrs. E. 68 Widow. Last UK Address as, c/o Stevenson, 3, Cornhaddock St. Greenock) (Ship, 'Megantic')

Chris :)

patchem

patchem Report 7 Aug 2016 07:35

The family is in a tree on Ancestry, with more children etc -get a trial subscriptionto Ancestry and make contact with tree owner?

patchem

patchem Report 7 Aug 2016 07:38

According to the tree, Annie marries Cyril John Hale and dies in Ajax, Durham, Ontario on 8th August 2014.

patchem

patchem Report 7 Aug 2016 07:53

Another tree (on the Cyril John Hale side) has Annie Elizabeth marrying Cyril in 1943, and known as Elsa, so another potential contact?

Added:
But it also gives another spouse for Cyril, known as Keitha.

ER's not clear, as can just have Mrs Cyril Hale......

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 7 Aug 2016 08:09

Obituary for Ann Elizabeth:

http://www.ajaxfuneralhome.ca/035~Funeral_Details/?i=459

"Predeceased by her parents Mary Buchanan and George McDonnell and her brothers James and George. "

Also gives details on living relatives.

mgnv

mgnv Report 7 Aug 2016 16:17

In Aug 1924, Geo arrives in Quebec alone - his wife is still in the UK, and he's going to Mrs Thorpe, his sis in Hamilton ON.

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm10/d10/006003/t-15119/pdf/30927_2000915033-03583.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm10/d10/006003/t-15119/pdf/30927_2000915033-03582.pdf


In Dec 1925, Mary, Annie & Eliz arrive in Halifax.
Annie was born Broadford, Skye, next to Harrapool, where Mary's aunt, Mrs K Kerr lives now.
Eliz's daur, Mrs Thorpe, is now living in what looks like Beamsvale - I presume she means Beamsville which is abt 40km E of Hamilton, two thirds of way to St Catherines.

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform-digitization/006003-119.01-e.php?PHPSESSID=pgu74hjaupu9qmj7ao9j21gtb3&sqn=290&q2=16&q3=951&tt=628

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 Aug 2016 16:38

This seems to be George's sis returning to Canada after a visit to Scotland.

Mary Thorpe

in the Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
Record Image View

Name: Mary Thorpe
Gender: Female
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Birth Place: Glasgow, Scotland
Age: 36
Date of Arrival: 10 Oct 1920
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Megantic

She's with her husband, address was Haileysbury?, Ontario (very difficult to read). Nearest relative from where she came was mother Mrs. J. McDonnell, 51 Bo?ter St., Greenock. She had departed Canada 14 Aug.1920.

mgnv

mgnv Report 7 Aug 2016 23:20

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform-digitization/006003-119.01-e.php?PHPSESSID=0otiu6vggbsbge134jbg9409u0&sqn=4456&q2=5&q3=773&tt=4859

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform-digitization/006003-119.01-e.php?q2=5&q3=773&sqn=4455&tt=4859&PHPSESSID=0otiu6vggbsbge134jbg9409u0


1921
Province or Territory: Ontario
District: Temiskaming
District Number: 129
Sub-district: Haileybury
Sub-District Number: 11
City, Town or Village: Haileybury
Street or Township: 91 Browning St
Municipality: Haileybury
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
O J Thorpe 41 [Head]
Mary Rosa Thorpe 38 [Wife]
Edgar O Thorpe 12 [Son - mum b Ont]
Clarence G Thorpe 10 [Son - mum b Ont]
Francis P Champea 8 [Step-Son - mum b Scot]
Thorpe Rott B Champea 6/12 [Robt B Thorpe Son - mum b Scot]
Kelma E Champea 14 [Velma E Thorpe Daur - mum b Ont]
Elizabeth Mg Champea 2 [Elizabeth Mg Thorpe Daur - mum b Scot]
{Mary immig 1901 rest have pob=Ont]

Ancestry has a 1913 Ont birth
Frank Pringle Thorpe date gender Wentworth name surname,Mary Rosa surname
*** COULD SOMEONE GIVE MORE DETAIL ***


https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:278T-B9M [with image link]
[Marriage license]

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:278T-B9S [with image link]
Name Oswald James Thorpe
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 10 Oct 1918
Event Place Beamsville, Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
Gender Male
Age 39
Birth Year (Estimated) 1879
Father's Name Robert Thorpe
Mother's Name Maggie Bell
Spouse's Name Mary Rosa Chalaupka
Spouse's Gender Female
Spouse's Age 35
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1883
Spouse's Father's Name James Macdonell
Spouse's Mother's Name Elizabeth Riddell


1901
Name Parent or spouse names Estimated birth year Birthplace Relation Civil Parish County
James McDonnell Elezabeth abt 1847 location relation city Lanarkshire
Elezabeth McDonnell James abt 1857 location relation city Lanarkshire
Marg R McDonnell James,Elezabeth abt 1882 location relation city Lanarkshire
James McDonnell James,Elezabeth abt 1884 location relation city Lanarkshire
John McDonnell James,Elezabeth abt 1889 location relation city Lanarkshire
George McDonnell James,Elezabeth abt 1895 location relation city Lanarkshire
[Ancestry's Scottish 1901 has an odd spelling for Eliz.]
[It might be helpful if someone with a sub could provide more details]


1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Ontario / Nipissing / 98 Haileybury / page 9-10
49 79 Thorpe O.J. M Head M Jan 1880 31
50 79 Thorpe Louise F Wife M Jun 1878 32
1 79 Thorpe Velma F Daughter S Mar 1907 4
2 79 Thorpe Edgar O. M Son S Oct 1908 2
3 79 Thorpe Clarence M Son S Nov 1910 6/12
4 79 Tillson Elizabeth F Mother-in-law W Sep 1833 77
5 79 Edward ?irtri F Domestic S Oct 1894 16
6 79 Thorpe R. M Father M Sep 1848 62
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002005190.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002005191.pdf

EDIT
Haileybury is abt 150 km N of North Bay (so abt 500km N of Toronto).
If I travel another 150km N, Then head E for 60km, I come to Timmins. 10km before I get to Timmins, I pas thru S Porcupine.

I've pm'ed the 1921 image to Robert.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 8 Aug 2016 02:00

Details of that 1913 birth of Frank Pringle Thorpe. Original is a delayed statement of birth made by Velma Margaret Thorpe dated 26 Sep. 1962.

Frank Pringle Thorpe

in the Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1913
Record Image View

Name: Frank Pringle Thorpe
[Francis Princie Chalaupka]
Date of Birth: 1 Mar 1913
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Wentworth, Ontario, Canada
Father's name: Reginald Chalaupka
Mother's name: Mary Rosa McDonnell

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 8 Aug 2016 02:16

Mary Rosa's marriage to Reginald Chalaupka. She's a widow. A mistake was made on the form, where it says name of father of wife it says Annie Smith but maiden name of mother of wife is Elizabeth Riddell.


Riginald Francis Joseph Chalaupka

in the Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1928, 1933-1934
Record Image View

Name: Riginald Francis Joseph Chalaupka
Age: 31
Birth Year: abt 1881
Marriage Date: 9 Apr 1912
Marriage Place: Brant, Ontario, Canada
Father: Frank Chalaupka
Mother: Annie Smith
Spouse: Mary Rosa Bird

Robert

Robert Report 8 Aug 2016 03:58

I do not know how to express my gratitude for all this information. My wife and I were trying to find out about Mary after she left Scotland. We found a letter from Mary's father to Mary's sister, Eliza, saying that he had not heard from Mary for some time and he was worried. My wife has passed away and unfortunately is unable to share in the new information. Thankyou Patchem, Chris Ho, AustinQ,mgnv,MargaretM.

I am about to digest all this now Whoopee! I am sorry I included my email address, Patchem. How do I remove it.

patchem

patchem Report 8 Aug 2016 04:05

Hi, Robert.

I have just emailed you using that address to ask you to return, and you have beaten me to it.

Just click on the Edit button above the post and then you can remove the address.

I did not want you to miss what has been found.

Pat

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 8 Aug 2016 07:57

(for mgnv, reference 1901)

Chris :)

1901 (Find My Past)
James McDonnell Head Married Male 54 1847 Warehouseman Druggist West Indies
Elizabeth McDonnell Wife Married Female 44 1857 - Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Mary R McDonnell Daughter Single Female 19 1882 Mantle Maker Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
James McDonnell Son - Male 17 1884 Warehouse Asst Druggist Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
John McDonnell Son - Male 12 1889 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
George McDonnell Son - Male 6 1895 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Marg Riddle Boarder Single Female 21 1880 Asst In Drug Store Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Street Thistle Street
Parish Govan
Country Scotland
County Lanarkshire
Registration district Gorbals
Archive reference RG13


1891 (Find My Past)
James McDonnell Head Married Male 49 1842 Grocers Whouseman -
Elizabeth McDonnell Wife Married Female 33 1858 - Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Mary McDonnell Daughter - Female 9 1882 Scholar Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
James McDonnell Son - Male 7 1884 Scholar Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
John McDonnell Son - Male 3 1888 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
William McDonnell Son - Male 0 1891 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
John Riddell Brother-In-Law Unmarried Male 28 1863 Butcher Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Street Orchard Street
Parish Govan
County Lanarkshire
Registration district Hutchesontown
Archive reference RG12


http://geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/1154786?PHPSESSID=7d84dc9c599c53b3fbc01ae2afc8c67f

(apologies if above already posted, Gravestone photo of Mary R Thorpe. From 'google' search)

mgnv

mgnv Report 8 Aug 2016 11:46

1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Ontario / Brantford / 24 Brantford / page 9
17 110 Chalaupka Frank M Head M Jul 1855 55
18 110 Chalaupka Annie F Wife M Mar 1863 48
19 110 Chalaupka Agnes F Daughter S May 1884 27
20 110 Chalaupka Mayatosa F Daughter S Feb 1894 17
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001979325.pdf
[addy is Darling St]

1901 Census of Canada Page Information
District: ON BRANT (South/Sud) (#46)
Subdistrict: Brantford (City/Cité) A-14 Page 4
35 45 Chaulaupka Frank M Head M Jul 3 1855 45
36 45 Chaulaupka Hannie F Wife M Mar 10 1863 38
37 45 Chaulaupka Mary F Daughter S Oct 1 1878 21
38 45 Chaulaupka Reginald M Son S May 15 1889 12
39 45 Chaulaupka Aggie F Daughter S May 10 1884 16
40 45 Chaulaupka Irene F Daughter S Mar 13 1891 9
41 45 Chaulaupka May E F Daughter S Feb 8 1894 7
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z002/pdf/z000051971.pdf
Sched 2: http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z002/pdf/z000051964.pdf
[P4 L35 - addy is 308 Dalhousie]

mgnv

mgnv Report 8 Aug 2016 19:25

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J6LX-XZY [with image link]
Name Reginald F.J. Chalaupka
Event Type Death
Event Date 22 May 1917
Event Place Hamilton, Wentworth, Ontario
Gender Male
Age 36
Birthplace Brantford
Birth Year (Estimated) 1881
Burial Place Brantford, Ont.
Father's Name Frank Chalpuaka