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Can't find Jane's birth record. Update.

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Kuros

Kuros Report 18 Feb 2017 13:43

I've been searching, with no success, for the birth of Jane Delaney. She was born in 1887/8 in Ebbw Vale and she appears on the 1891, 1901 and 1911 censuses. In 1891 she's in Ebbw Vale with these people:

James Lawlor, head, born Cork 1837
Catherine, wife, born 1845 Limerick
Patrick, son, born 1872 Sirhowy, Wales
Catherine, daughter, born 1875, Ebbw Vale
JANE DELANEY, born 1888 Ebbw Vale, granddaughter

In 1901 she's with the same family in Ebbw Vale but also in the house are:
Catherine Sullivan (married daughter now)
Eugene Sullivan, grandson.

Jane married Harry Meyrick in Bedwellty district in 1906. She died in 1959 and is buried in the cemetery in Ebbw Vale but the headstone only records her date of death.

As she is Delaney, different from the others in the household, it's possible she's the daughter of a Lawlor who married a Delaney but records in Ireland are very patchy and I can't find a likely marriage.

Can anyone suggest anything else, please?


Annie

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 18 Feb 2017 14:07

Still looking- birth date for reference:

1939

Mayrick Household (2 People) 7 Pontygof Row , Ebbw Vale U.D., Monmouthshire, Wales

Henry Mayrick 20 May 1881 Male Locomotive Driver Steelworks Married
Jane Mayrick 11 Mar 1887 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Closed Record
Closed Record

Kuros

Kuros Report 18 Feb 2017 14:11

Sorry, Austin, I meant to put that on as it gives her date of birth. I can send for her marriage cert which may or may not give me her father's name.

Annie

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 18 Feb 2017 14:35

I believe this is the same family in 1881:

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
7, Row 4 Rows Sirhowy, Bedwelty, Monmouthshire, Wales

James Landlea Head Married Male 40 1841 Labrour In Iron Works Ireland
Catherine Landlea Wife Married Female 37 1844 - Ireland
Jane Landlea Daughter Single Female 18 1863 Domestic Servant Brynmawr, Breconshire,
Mary A Landlea Daughter Single Female 13 1868 Scholar City of London, Middlesex, England
Patrick Landlea Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar Sirhowy, Monmouthshire,
Catherine Landlea Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Sirhowy, Monmouthshire,
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1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Back of Row, Bedwellty, Monmouthshire, Wales

James Lollen Head - Male 30 1841 - Ireland
Catherine Lollen Wife - Female 30 1841 - Ireland
Jane Lollen Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Monmouthshire, Wales
Mary A Lollen Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Monmouthshire, Wales

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 18 Feb 2017 14:38

Have you followed daughters Jane and Mary Ann?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 18 Feb 2017 14:38

FreeBMD doesn't show a marriage of Henry Mayrick to a Jane.

Kuros

Kuros Report 18 Feb 2017 14:41

It's Harry Meyrick, Margaret and it's on Ancestry. I have the 1881, Austin but there doesn't seem to be a likely candidate for Jane's mother.


Annie

Kayak

Kayak Report 18 Feb 2017 14:43

Possible marriage for Jane

JUNE Q 1885


Broad Charles Carmarthen 11a 149
Davies Mary Bedwelty 11a 149
DELANY Timothy Bedwelty 11a 149 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
GRIFFITHS George Bedwelty 11a 149
Lawler Jane Bedwelty 11a 1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

malyon

malyon Report 18 Feb 2017 14:43

could this be a marriage

Marriages Jun 1875   (>99%)

Conlon
 Patrick
 
 Bradford, Y.
 9b
321
  
DELANEY xxxxxxx
 Michael
 
 Bradford
 9b
321
  
LAWLOR
 Catherine xxxxxxxx
 
 Bradford, Y.
 9b
321
  
WHITE
 Annie
 
 Bradford, Y.
 9b
321

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 18 Feb 2017 14:44

Tiggit- just spotted that- I think it's the one :)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 18 Feb 2017 14:45

Sorry I entered Henry Mayrick when it should have been Harry Meyrick.

Marriages Dec 1906 (>99%)
Delaney Jane Bedwellty 11a 235
MEYRICK Harry Bedwellty 11a 235

Maddie

Maddie Report 18 Feb 2017 14:47

mary ann and patrick in 1911

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
14 Top Row Back Newtown Ebbw Vale Mon, Ebbw Vale, Monmouthshire, Wales

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
John Gallivan Head Married Male Blast Furnace Labourer 49 1862 Glam Dowlais
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Mary Ann Gallivan Wife Married Female - 40 1871 London
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Michael Gallivan Son Single Male General Labourer 20 1891 Mon Ebbw Vale
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James Gallivan Son Single Male General Labourer 17 1894 Mon Ebbw Vale
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Patrick Lawlor Brother In Law Widower Male Blast Furnace Labourer 38 1873 Mon Sirhowy
Transcription
Patrick Lawlor Nephew - Male - 10 1901 Glam Cardiff

his marriage
PATRICK
Last name LAWLER
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1895
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ PATRICK LAWLER married one of these people
Rose Bigmone, Charlotte Pinchin, Annie Sullivan
District Bedwellty
District number -
County Monmouthshire
Country Wales
Volume 11A
Page 177
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2008
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

Kuros

Kuros Report 18 Feb 2017 14:57

Ooh, you have been busy. Give me a minute while I digest all that. Thank you.

Annie

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 18 Feb 2017 15:09

If this is Timothy, the mother's surnames of children don't match. Perhaps another partner??

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
10 Crooked Row Ebbw Vale Mon, Ebbw Vale, Monmouthshire, Wales

Timothy Delaney Head Widower Male Iron Worker 46 1865 Dublin Ireland
John Delaney Son - Male - 7 1904 Ebbw Vale Monmouthshire
Mary Delaney Daughter - Female Servant 14 1897 Ebbw Vale Monmouthshire
Margaret Delaney Daughter - Female - 12 1899 Ebbw Vale Monmouthshire

Three children all still living??

Kayak

Kayak Report 18 Feb 2017 15:12

Following Timothy Delaney:


Name: Timothy Delaney
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's name: Patrick Delaney
Mother's name: Jane Delaney
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Bedwellty
Ecclesiastical parish: Beaufort
Town: Ebbw Vale
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Bedwellty
Sub-registration district: Tredegar
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Household schedule number: 57
Piece: 5324
Folio: 8
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Patrick Delaney 28
Jane Delaney 38
Timothy Delaney 6
Mary Delaney 3


possibly another marriage for him:


Marriages Sep 1895 (>99%)
Broderick Mary Bedwelty 11a 179 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Delaney Timothy Bedwelty 11a 179 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
O'Connor Mary Ann Bedwelty 11a 179
Wall Richard Bedwelty 11a 179


1911 census:

Name: Timothy Delaney
Age in 1911: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Dublin, Ireland
Civil Parish: Ebbw Vale
Search Photos: Search for 'Ebbw Vale' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street address: 10 Crooked Row Ebbw Vale Mon
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Iron Worker
Registration district: Bedwellty
Registration District Number: 585
Sub-registration district: Aberystruth
ED, institution, or vessel: 03
Household schedule number: 42
Piece: 31816
Household Members:
Name Age
Timothy Delaney 46
John Delaney 7
Mary Delaney 14
Margaret Delaney 12

Death:
Dec Q 1910
Delaney Mary aged 42 Bedwelty 11a 41




Can't see a death for Jane Delaney/Delany though

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 18 Feb 2017 15:14

Yes- son John has Broderick as mother's surname

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 18 Feb 2017 15:15

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
13, Furnace Row, Ebbw Vale, Bedwelty, Monmouthshire, Wales

Patsey Brotherick Head Single Male 32 1869 Blast Fce Man Ebbw Vale, Monmouthshire
Noran Brotherick Mother Widow Female 79 1822 - Ireland
Mary Delaney Step Daughter Married Female 30 1871 - Ebbw Vale, Monmouthshire, Wales
Annie Brotherick Daughter Single Female 16 1885 Blast Fce Coke Filler Ebbw Vale, Monmouthshire, Wales
Mary Delaney Step Daughter Single Female 5 1896 - Ebbw Vale, Monmouthshire, Wales
Maggie Delaney Step Daughter Single Female 3 1898 - Ebbw Vale, Monmouthshire, Wales

Kuros

Kuros Report 18 Feb 2017 17:43

Sorry, I was required for babysitting duties. Thank you so much, everyone. I was getting very bogged down in this so fresh eyes have really helped. Most of this I've not seen before. I'm very grateful to you all.

Annie

Kuros

Kuros Report 28 Feb 2017 13:57

I now have Jane's and Harry's marriage cert and this confirms that Jane's father was Timothy Delaney. It seems that Timothy married Jane Lawlor and she died sometime after Jane's birth because Timothy married Mary Broderick in 1895. He is a widower in 1911, Mary having died in 1910. He has step-children.
I can find two of the daughters in 1901, living with others in the extended family, but no sign of Timothy. I found his death in 1940 and some army records. I cannot find him on the 1939 register either. I wouldn't have got this far without your help.

Annie

safc

safc Report 28 Feb 2017 14:06


Timothy Del?y on the 1939 Register

1939 Register Transcription

Household (1 Person) Worksmans Home Lodging House Newtown , Ebbw Vale U.D., Monmouthshire, Wales
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Timothy Del?y 01 Feb 1865 Male Genearl Labourer Steelwork (Retired) Widowed 1 20