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Wm H Pengelly
in the 1911 England Census
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Name: Wm H Pengelly
Age in 1911: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Birth Place: Stonehouse, Devon, England
Civil Parish: China and East Indies
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County/Island: Royal Navy - (ship - Cadmus)
Country: England
Marital Status: Married
Registration District Number: 640
ED, institution, or vessel: Vessels
Piece: 34972
Also states that he was a Wesleyan and an Artificer Engineer.
Dea x
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Any idea of when he died? still cant find anything
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Can't see anything yet- the 1872 man might not be correct, I'm still looking.
On the baptism for son William Thomas, William is listed is a Stoker RN.
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There's something strange going on!
The children are listed on the own on the 1911 census in Plymouth.
This is the mother in 1911- she's listed as single but I think it's her:
Name: Ellen Pengelly
Age in 1911: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Tamerton Foliott, Devon
Civil Parish: Plymouth
County/Island: Devon
Street address: 19 Bath Lane, Plymouth
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: sewing
Registration district: Plymouth
Registration District Number: 276
Sub-registration district: Plymouth South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 402
Piece: 12982
Name Age
Ellen Pengelly 38
Ellen Pengelly 7
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Possible birth for Ellen?
PENGELLY, NELLIE mother's maiden name: COLE
GRO Reference: 1904 M Quarter in DEVONPORT Volume 05B Page 315
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In 1914 she's listed on a school register- guardian is Plympton Guard Children's Home
National School Admission Registers & Log-books
First name(s) Ellen
Last name Pengelly
Event year 1914
Admission date 21 Sep 1914
Birth year 1904
Birth date 10 Feb 1904
School name Crownhill Schools
Town St Budeaux
County Devon
Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office
Father's name Plympton Guard Children's home
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I think this could be the 1872 one, but father named as NOK so possibly not the right one.
PENGELLY, WILLIAM
Rank:Petty Officer StokerTrade:PensionerService No:280059Date of Death:06/01/1919Age:46Regiment/Service:Royal Navy H.M.S. "Vivid" Grave Reference:A. 122.Cemetery:CAISTER OLD CEMETERYAdditional Information:Son of John and Elizabeth Pengelly.
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Many trees on Ancestry have the above 1919 death posted by Flip but this is incorrect as they are two different people - note the service numbers**
The 1919 death:
William Pengelly
Birth: unknown
Death: Jan. 6, 1919
280059 Petty Officer Stoker William Pengelly ****
Royal Navy
H.M.S. "Vivid"
Died age 46
Son of John and Elizabeth Pengelly
Burial:
Caister Cemetery
Caister-on-Sea
Great Yarmouth Borough
Norfolk, England
Plot: A. 122.
Created by: Stephen Farnell
Record added: Oct 25, 2012
Find A Grave Memorial# 99552123
Service record:
Name: William Pengelly
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 14 Feb 1876
Birth Place: Budlake, Devon
Service Number: 280059
First Service Date: 1 Jul 1895
First Ship Served On: Vivid II
Last Service Date: 11 Dec 1916
Last Ship Served On: Vivid II
5' 6" Dark Hair, Hazel eyes, Fresh complexion - Labourer.
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This is the one we are looking for ??:
Service record:
Name: William Henry Pengelly
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 20 Mar 1872
Birth Place: Stonehouse, Devon
Service Number: 268355 *****
First Service Date: 24 Nov 1894
First Ship Served On: Vivid II
Last Service Date: 27 Nov 1902
Last Ship Served On: Vivid II
5' 4" Brown hair & eyes, Fair complexion - Engine Smith
Dea x
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Sorry- not to do with William's death- but in on the school admissions James and Mary are living at 3 Meavy Terrace and G H Pengelly is listed as Guardian.
This is the same G H Pengelly in 1911:
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
3 Meavy Terrace Crownhill R S O S Devon, St Budeaux, Devon, England
George Henry Pengelly Head Married Male Postman 36 1875 St Budeaux Devon
Mary Elizabeth Pengelly Wife Married Female - 35 1876 St Budeaux Devon
Ivy Elizabeth Pengelly Daughter Single Female School 10 1901 Princetown Devon
Olive May Pengelly Daughter Single Female - 7 1904 Princetown Devon
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So if George is William's brother, then this confirms the approx birth for William:
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
15, Saltash Passage, St Budeaux, Plympton St Mary, Devon, England
John Pengelly Head Married Male 38 1843 Laborer H M Dockyard (Gen) Devon, England
Elizabeth Pengelly Wife Married Female 38 1843 - St Budeaux, Devon, England
Elizabeth A Pengelly Daughter Single Female 12 1869 Scholar St Budeaux, Devon, England
Susan Pengelly Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar St Budeaux, Devon, England
William Pengelly Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar St Budeaux, Devon, England
George H Pengelly Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar St Budeaux, Devon, England
Gertrude C Pengelly Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Scholar St Budeaux, Devon, England
Alice M M Pengelly Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - St Budeaux, Devon, England
John Roger Pengelly Son Single Male 0 1881 - St Budeaux, Devon, England
William Peard Father In Law Widower Male 82 1799 Ag Laborer Stoke Damerel, Devon,
So, son of John & Elizabeth fits the 1919 Death posted by flip- and he's also listed as Stoker on his son's baptism.
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The bits you can see on the national archives site image previously posted (without buying it) does show the record ceasing in 1919, but can't see why, nor the name of the ship.
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This is the birth for Willam and his brother:
PENGELLY, WILLIAM mmn: PEARD
GRO Reference: 1873 M Quarter in PLYMPTON ST MARY UNION Volume 05B Page 242
William's twin (died 1873):
PENGELLY, ROGER mmn: PEARD
GRO Reference: 1873 M Quarter in PLYMPTON ST MARY UNION Volume 05B Page 242
PENGELLY, GEORGE HENRY mmn: PEARD
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in PLYMPTON ST MARY UNION Volume 05B Page 217
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Naval record (age two years out): Image on Ancestry
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D6747721
Reference: ADM 188/447/280059
Description:
Name Pengelly, William
Official Number: 280059
Place of Birth: Saint Budeaux, Devon
Date of Birth: 14 February 1875
He was invalided in 1916 and sent to Great Yarmouth Hospital as a 'dangerous lunatic"
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Flip the William Henry's record ( Official Number: 268355) that was posted earlier finishes in 1902- there is a record of another man underneath that finishes in 1919- the image is on Ancestry.
That William Henry is not our man
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Hi all,
I have now acquired my great grandparents birth certs. Mary elizabeth pengellys has her parents as william penegelly and ellen cole. and john henry pikes has his parents down as Harry pike and Sarah Jane White
The cert has william as a stoker in the royal navy and harry pike as a farm labourer
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