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Isaac Solomon

in the 1881 England Census
View 1881 England Census
Name: Isaac Solomon
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relationship to Head: Prisoner
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Gillingham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: "H M Convict Prison Chatham Kent"
Education:

Occupation: Convict
Registration district: Medway
ED, institution, or vessel: H M Convict Prison
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 897
Folio: 79
Page Number: 43

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Isaac Solomon

in the New York, Sing Sing Prison Admission Registers, 1865-1939
View New York, Sing Sing Prison Admission Registers, 1865-193
Name: Isaac Solomon
Age: 35
Birth Year: abt 1851
Birth Place: Manchester, England
Admission Date: 16 Jun 1886
Admission Place: Ossining, Westchester, New York, USA
Sentence Date: 16 Jun 1886
Place Received From: Poughkeepsie, Dutchess
he is a tailor

Isaac
Last name Solomon
Age 30
Birth year 1852
Occupation Tailor
Year 1882
Date 12 Apr 1882
Court Manchester
Place Lancashire
Victim's first name(s) Thomas Henry
Victim's last name Law
Source A Calendar Of Prisoners Tried At The General Quarter Sessions Of The Peace
Series HO140
Piece number 59
Page number 14
Record set England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935
Category Institutions & organisations
Subcategory Prison registers
Collections from Great Britain

He appears mainly in Staffordshire newspapers 1864- 1882. This is just an outline of a few of the articles:

There was a large robbery at his jewellers shop in 1864. He said at that time to have been resident in Manchester but carrying out business in Liverpool Road,Burslem. 96 gold and silver watches were among the items stolen.

In 1868 his son Isaac was sentenced to 9 months imprisonment for forging a request for goods (2 watches and boots) in his father's name. His father (then living in Hanley) then places a notice in the paper cautioning people about conducting business with his sons in his name- stating he would not be responsible.

In 1880 Joseph is listed under the Liquidations By Arrangement- Joseph Solomon, Harley Street, Hanley- General dealer

In 1881 he mentioned in an article about Jews in North Staffordshire:
"Mr Joseph Solomon, now president of the Hanley Hebrew Congregation came into the town and lived in isolation for some 15 years. Being joined by others of the Ancient People, Mr Solomon arranged for a temporary place of worship being established in the town, and every Saturday service was held in a room in Foundry Street...."
He was also involved in raising funds for a new synagogue to be built.

Also in 1881 he (again) made an application for the grant of a plot of land in the Hanley cemetery for Jewish interments- as until then Jewish people were compelled to make arrangements for interment at Manchester.

In 1882 he is involved in a dispute among the Jewish people of Hanley-

"...the complainant, Joseph Solomon, with an expenditure of considerable time, energy and trouble, collected funds to build a synagogue at Hanley. In recognition of his service the members of the community appointed him warden of the synagogue, an office he had held up to the present time."

His complaint was regarding disturbances caused by a new member of the congregation (frightening women etc). The man he was complaining about disputed that Joseph should be the warden- it was an opinion that divided the Jewish community.

I don't see any mention of him in Hanley after 1882 so suspect this is when he moved to Salford.

Thank you so much.
Which newspapers have you seen Joseph mentioned in please

There are quite a few references to Joseph in the papers- he was a large figure in the Jewish community of Hanley

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Market Square, Hanley, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England

Joseph Solomon Head - Male 44 1827 - Poland (Russia)
Jane Solomon Wife Mar Female 42 1829 - Essex, England
Eli Solomon Son Unm Male 19 1852 - Lancashire,
Sarah Solomon Daur Unm Female 16 1855 Dressmaker Lancashire,
Urahan Solomon Son - Male 14 1857 Glass Cutter Lancashire,
Jacob Solomon Son - Male 7 1864 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire,
Leah Solomon Daur - Female 5 1866 Scholar Staffordshire, England
Marian Solomon Daur - Female 2 1869 - Staffordshire,
Ellen Badderley - Unm Male 24 1847 General Servant Staffordshire,
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1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
59, Harley Street, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England

Joseph Solomon Head Married Male 53 1828 Jeweller Poland (Russia)
Jane Solomon Wife Married Female 53 1828 - Colchester, Essex,
Albert Solomon Son Single Male 26 1855 Glass Engraver Wigan, Lancashire,
Leah Solomon Daughter Single Female 16 1865 Milliner Hanley, Staffordshire,
Hannah Solomon Daughter Single Female 13 1868 Scholar Hanley, Staffordshire,
Marian Solomon Daughter Single Female 12 1869 Scholar Hanley, Staffordshire,
Ester Solomon Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Hanley, Staffordshire,
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Jane 1891

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Woerth Street, Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Arthur S Schwarty Head Married Male 28 1863 Tailor Machiner Poland (Russia)
Hannah S Schwarty Wife Married Female 27 1864 - Hanley, Staffordshire,
Leah S Schwarty Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Widnes, Lancashire,
Abraham I Schwarty Son - Male 1 1890 - Leeds, Yorkshire,
Jane Soloman Relative Visitor Married Female 64 1827 - Colchester, Essex,
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Joseph 1891

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Edward Street, Broughton, Salford, Lancashire, England

Joseph Solomon Head Married Male 70 1821 Jeweller Poland (Russia)
Esther Solomon Daughter Single Female 19 1872 Machinist Hanley, Staffordshire,
Philsby Berkensthod Lodger Single Male 54 1837 Traveller Poland (Russia)

I am going to send for the death certificate of the Rebbeca Jane Sims that Maddie found. I never seem to gleam much information from death certificate s I have sent for in the past but perhaps this one will be differrent.
Thanks again for everyone's input much appreciated

I am going to send for the death certificate of the Rebbeca Jane Sims that Maddie found. I never seem to gleam much information from death certificate s I have sent for in the past but perhaps this one will be differrent.
Thanks again for everyone's input much appreciated

Thank you for ythat. I have received Eli's birth certificate but it does not really tell me anything I do not know already. I have quite a few of the other birth records but as they had quite a few children I have not sent for any.
Thank you for all your reply I really appreciate all the help

There is this record on the new GRO Index which gives mother's maiden name as SIms.
Does it help or not?

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
SOLOMON, ELI SIMS Order
GRO Reference: 1853 M Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 46

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Christine :-S

Thank you for all the help I will investigate further your information is much appreciated

could this be rebecca / jane

Name: Rebecca Jane Solomon
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Registration Year: 1894
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 67
Registration district: Salford
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 49

Joseph Solomon
mentioned in the record of Joseph Solomon and Rebecca Davis
Name
Joseph Solomon
Spouse's Name
Rebecca Davis
Event Date
10 Feb 1850
Event Place
Saint Katherine Coleman,London

maybe jane and joseph never married.

Thank you for all your help . I am still unsure as to were to go from here,I will have to rethink thanks again much appreciated

does this help

Joseph Solomon
Sex Male
Wife Jane Simms ----------------------
Son Isaac Solomon
Other information in the record of Isaac Solomon and Mary Lavisa Maybee Bigelow
from New York, New York City Marriage Records
Name Isaac Solomon
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 06 Sep 1883
Event Place Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Event Place (Original) Manhattan, New York
Gender Male
Age 32
Marital Status Single
Birth Year (Estimated) 1851
Birthplace Manchester, England
Father's Name Joseph Solomon
Mother's Name Jane Simms
Spouse's Name Mary Lavisa Maybee Bigelow
Spouse's Gender Female
Spouse's Age 37
Spouse's Marital Status Widowed
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1846
Spouse's Birthplace Poughkeepsie, N. Y.
Spouse's Father's Name Daniel D. Maybee
Spouse's Mother's Name Esther Elizabeth Morgan
Citing this Record

"New York, New York City Marriage Records, 1829-1940," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24SW-F6F : 20 March 2015), Joseph Solomon in entry for Isaac Solomon and Mary Lavisa Maybee Bigelow, 06 Sep 1883; citing Marriage, Manhattan, New York, New York, United
States, New York City Municipal Archives, New York; FHL microfilm 1,570,185.

Isaac Solomon

in the Massachusetts, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1963
View Massachusetts, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1963

Name: Isaac Solomon
Gender: Male
Age: 20
Birth Date: abt 1851
Departure Place: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 7 Mar 1871
Arrival Place: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Ship: Aleppo

Well, the Joseph on above census was a Jeweller in 1861 but he was certainly 'dealer' of some sort before that:

At least 2 of these baptisms seem to connect?


Baptism: 22 May 1853 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Eli Solomon - Son of Joseph Solomon & Jane
Born: 3 Mar 1853
Abode: Millgate
Occupation: Hardware Dealer
Baptised by: Howard St George Curate
Register: Baptisms 1851 - 1854, Page 275, Entry 2199
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Baptism: 10 Dec 1854 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Hannah Solomon - [Child] of Joseph Solomon & Jane
Born: 27 Oct? 1854
Abode: Wiend
Occupation: Hardware Dealer
Notes: [Birth month obscured by Minister's signature]
Baptised by: F H Coldwell Curate
Register: Baptisms 1854 - 1857, Page 81, Entry 645
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Baptism: 10 Sep 1856 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
George Frederick Soloman - [Child] of Joseph Soloman & Jane
Born: 18 Jul 1856
Abode: Wallgate
Occupation: Auctioneer
Baptised by: Saml. Doria officiating Minister
Register: Baptisms 1854 - 1857, Page 305, Entry 2435
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

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George Frederic
Last name Sims
Birth year 1821
Birth date 18 Sep 1821
Baptism year 1823
Baptism date 26 Oct 1823
Place Colchester
Denomination Independent
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Mother's first name(s) Sarah
County Essex
Country England
The National Archives reference TNA/RG/4/357
Description ESSEX: Colchester, Stockwell Chapel, formerly Helens Lane Meeting House (Independent): Births & Baptisms
Record set England & Wales Non-Conformist Births And Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
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First name(s) Jane
Last name Sims
Birth year 1828
Birth date 30 May 1828
Baptism year 1828
Baptism date 15 Jun 1828
Place Colchester
Denomination Independent
Father's first name(s) Thos
Mother's first name(s) Sarah
County Essex
Country England
The National Archives reference TNA/RG/4/357
Description ESSEX: Colchester, Stockwell Chapel, formerly Helens Lane Meeting House (Independent): Births & Baptisms
Record set England & Wales Non-Conformist Births And Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

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Joseph Salomon
Deutschland Geburten und Taufen
Name
Joseph Salomon
Gender
Male
Birthplace
birth:
4 July 1822
JUDEN UND DISSIDENT, MUNSTER STADT, WESTFALEN, PRUSSIA
Father's Name
Abraham Salomon
Mother's Name
Julie Herz

Manchester Rate Books 1706-1900 Transcription

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First name(s) Joeseph
Last name Solomon
Occupier's first name(s) Joeseph
Occupier's last name Solomon
Owner's last name Murray
Date Aug 1861
Year 1861
House number 41
Address Cheetham St
Location Cheetham Township
Title of record Poor Rate Assessments
Archive reference M 10/7/5/18
Record set Manchester Rate Books 1706-1900
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Rate Books
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Manchester Rate Books 1706-1900 Transcription
First name(s) Joseph
Last name Solomon
Occupier's first name(s) Joseph
Occupier's last name Solomon
Owner's first name(s) James
Owner's last name Kay
Date Aug 1860
Year 1860
House number 33
Address Bank Street
Location Cheetham Township
Title of record Poor Rate Assessments
Archive reference M 10/7/5/17
Record set Manchester Rate Books 1706-1900
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Rate Books
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