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I am trying to find the birth record for SARAH SOLOMON.

I believe she was born in 1855 wigan Lancashire but I cannot find her on any of the sites I have looked at
one of her sisters HANNAH MARIA was born 1854 Wigan and one of her brothers GEORGE FREDRICK was born 1856 Wigan so I therefore think she was born Wigan and census give her birth as Wigan also.

Thank you for your help

only these 3 on lancashire opc


Baptism: 22 May 1853 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Eli Solomon - Son of Joseph Solomon & Jane
Born: 3 Mar 1853
Abode: Millgate
Occupation: Hardware Dealer
Baptised by: Howard St George Curate
Register: Baptisms 1851 - 1854, Page 275, Entry 2199
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Baptism: 10 Dec 1854 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Hannah Solomon - [Child] of Joseph Solomon & Jane
Born: 27 Oct? 1854
Abode: Wiend
Occupation: Hardware Dealer
Notes: [Birth month obscured by Minister's signature]
Baptised by: F H Coldwell Curate
Register: Baptisms 1854 - 1857, Page 81, Entry 645
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Baptism: 10 Sep 1856 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
George Frederick Soloman - [Child] of Joseph Soloman & Jane
Born: 18 Jul 1856
Abode: Wallgate
Occupation: Auctioneer
Baptised by: Saml. Doria officiating Minister
Register: Baptisms 1854 - 1857, Page 305, Entry 2435
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

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SOLOMON, HANNAH MARIA MMN SIMS
GRO Reference: 1854 D Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 28

I am not seeing a Sarah Solomon MMN Sims registered in 1855.


SOLOMON, GEORGE FREDERICK MMN SIMS
GRO Reference: 1856 S Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 22

1861 for ref

33, Bank Street, Cheetham, Manchester, Lancashire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Solomon Head Married Male 36 1825 Jeweller Lancashire, England
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Jane Solomon Wife Married Female 32 1829 - Essex, England
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Isaac Solomon Son - Male 10 1851 Scholar Ashton, Lancashire, England
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Eli Solomon Son - Male 8 1853 Scholar Wigan, Lancashire, England
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Sarah Solomon Daughter - Female 7 1854 Scholar Wigan, Lancashire, England
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Abraham Solomon Son - Male 5 1856 Scholar Wigan, Lancashire, England
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George F Sims Boarder Unmarried Male 38 1823 French Polisher Colchester, Essex, England
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There was Eli born 1853, Hannah Maria b 1854 and George Fredirick b 1856 all with mmn Sims, but no Sarah according to Lancashire bmd.

there is a previous thread on the solomon's
joseph solomon 1861 census Manchester kath23 7 Mar 2017 13:57 by kath23

Do you have another thread on this family Kath as it seems very familiar?

Dea x

Seeing the other 2 at present but not Sarah

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
SOLOMON, HANNAH MARIA SIMS Order
GRO Reference: 1854 D Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 28

SOLOMON, GEORGE FREDERICK SIMS Order
GRO Reference: 1856 S Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 22

I am beginning to think that Hannah Maria and Sarah are the same person.

I will explain.
Jane Sims married Joseph Solomon but as Joseph was jewish jane took the jewish name of Rebecca.

On all the census she is jane but on her wedding certificate she is Rebecca.

I am wondering if Hannah Maria took the name of SARAH as her jewish name,

what do you think

the other thread has been answered thank you

the 1861 could be Hanah (not Sarah) looking at the original.

On the original census form look at the other 'S's and the other 'n's- they are very different.

However, the later census does look like Sarah

Will take a look thank you

Does George Frederick become Abraham and Joseph become Isaac, whilst Eli remains Eli?

SOLOMON, ELI SIMS Order
GRO Reference: 1853 M Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 46

SOLOMON, JOSEPH SIMS Order
GRO Reference: 1851 M Quarter in ASHTON TOWN Volume 20 Page 4

There is a Hannah at the bottom of the original census page, spelt correctly. Also lower on the page another Sarah, where the "arah" looks like that in the Solomon S/H arah. I reckon if you look at the Sarah/Hannah Solomon you can see where there is an H overwritten by an S as though Hannah started to be written and then realised it should be Sarah??

This name changing is making things very difficult.

Even if I Send for Hannah Maria birth certificate I will not know if she is SarahI believe that Sarah married a Abraham Biurski in Manchester June 1873 but is Sarah Hannah ????

well the marriage will give her age and father but probably won't help with the name change :-(

Is there time between births !!

? Isaac/Joseph - b Mar Qtr 1851 so anytime mid November 1850 to end Mar 1851

Eli - b Mar Qtr 1853 so anytime mid November 1852 to end Mar 1853
A baptism shows born March 1853

? Hannah/Sarah - b Dec Qtr 1854 so anytime mid August 1854 to end Dec 1854
A baptism shows for Hannah ? born October 1854

Abraham/Geo F - bSep Qtr 1856 so anytime mid July 1856 to end Sep 1856
Baptism shows born July 1856

Just about time for a child between Eli and Hannah/Sarah but probably pushing it??

Same for between Hannah/Sarah and Abraham/George F

A foot note to the marriage. I sent for the marriage of a Rebecca Solomon to a Joseph Solomon manchester as found on previous thread as no one could find a marriage between a Jane Sims and Joseph Solomon and no Rebecca on any census. They give their fathers names as Abraham Solomon for both both deceased and Rebecca and Joseph are both at the same address. I am sure it is the correct marriage but what I am trying to say it does not prove the name changing. So even if I Send for all the birth certificates and marriage certificates of the children it would. Not prove that Sarah is Hannah .
I have Rebecca/Jane Solomon's death certificate 1894 and the name of the informant is Annie Solomon which I thought was possibly Hannah but if Hanna is Sarah this cannot be correct as Sarah married in 1873
This is getting complicated :-\

Thank you everyone for your help.
I need to rethink this now and see if it is possible that the children had two names an English one and a Jewish one. Thanks again

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=504711.0

(seems to be relating above)

Also past GR 'Threads' coming up, on google search.

Chris :)

(below appeared on Collection List, Ancestry)

Wigan, England, Church of England Marriages, 1754-1926
17/03/2017

UPDATED Wigan, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1911
17/03/2017

UPDATED Wigan, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1580-1812
17/03/2017

UPDATED Wigan, England, Church of England Burials, 1813-1979
17/03/?2017


http://www.wiganworld.co.uk/

(above been mentioned on here before, as useful)