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I've now got my grandfathers navy records.It gives his DOB as 27th April 1910,in Dalton-in-Furness,Lancashire.I have been unable to find this birth record anywhere.In 1933,he marries my grandmother-Nellie Clark.His address is given as Chatham.He's in the Royal Navy aboard the Royal Oak.His father is given as Thomas (deceased).I can't find them on the 1911 census.I don't know either of thems POB.I have found Nellie on the 1939 list at 25,Thornton Park,Dalton-in-Furness-I can't find Joseph? He was invalided from the Navy in February 1933 & in 1940 he claimed unemployment benefit at the Drill Hall in Ulverston,Lancashire.In 1946 he was a rigger in the steelworks (probably Barrow-in-Furness?) He died in 1963 in Sheffield.I'm now trying to find his & his fathers birthplace,his mothers name,his mother & fathers marriage,any siblings? The gaps from 1939-1943,1943-1946,1946-1963.There's no photographs of him in the family.No family members have much knowledge of him.ANY help/assistance MUCH APPRECIATED as I've hit a massive brick wall with this one.

Right, so this is Nellie in 1939. I know you have these Paul but they are for our info.

Davies Household (1 Person) 25 Thornton Park , Dalton-in-Furness U.D., Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Nellie Davies 01 Dec 1907 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 27 1

There are 3 closed records under her name.

All joseph Davies registered in the June Qtr 1910.

DAVIES, JOSEPH TRUMAN Order
GRO Reference: 1910 J Quarter in MIDDLESBROUGH Volume 09D Page 561
DAVIES, JOSEPH TOMLINSON Order
GRO Reference: 1910 J Quarter in MANSFIELD Volume 07B Page 118
DAVIES, JOSEPH BROOKS Order
GRO Reference: 1910 J Quarter in ABERGAVENNY Volume 11A Page 61
DAVIES, JOSEPH EDGAR SMALLDON Order
GRO Reference: 1910 J Quarter in SWANSEA Volume 11A Page 1243
DAVIES, JOSEPH ELIAS ROBERTS Order
GRO Reference: 1910 J Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 622
DAVIES, JOSEPH GLYN MASON Order
GRO Reference: 1910 J Quarter in ABERYSTWYTH Volume 11B Page 51
DAVIES, JOSEPH MARKHAM SMITH Order
GRO Reference: 1910 J Quarter in PONTEFRACT Volume 09C Page 150
DAVIES, JOSEPH THOMAS JONES Order
GRO Reference: 1910 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 58
DAVIES, JOSEPH WALLACE DOWSING Order
GRO Reference: 1910 J Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 212

His marriage. Note the spelling of his surname.


England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription

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First name(s) JOSEPH
Last name DAVIS
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1933
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ JOSEPH DAVIS married
Nellie Clark
Spouse's last name Clark
District Ulverston
District number -
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8E
Page 1065

That's her on 1939 record,3 closed records will be her children? Joan,Kenneth & Robert?
I have looked for any middle names he may of had on Navy,marriage & death records/certificates-there are none.On marriage certificate his father is given as Thomas (deceased) He states on Navy records he's born in Dalton-in-Furness-he doesn't appear to be?

Does Thomas have an occupation on his MC? Who were the witnesses? Sometimes they are family members.

Thomas was a labourer.Witnesses were Coupe-a relative (cousin) of the bride,& a Samuel Turner-no idea who he is?

There is this birth in Barrow in Furness (the registration district for Dalton in Furness):-

First name(s) JOSEPH F
Last name DAVIES
Birth year 1912
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name Rennie
District Barrow in Furness
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8E
Page 1329
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms

Although the date of birth is wrong, a lot of men gave the wrong date of birth when entering the services - my own father gave his year of birth as earlier than it was and my grandfather changed his age and place of birth on his (although I do think he actually believed he was born in the north east at the time although he was actually born in London but was brought up in the north east so he probably just assumed that is where he was born).

Kath. x

this looks like the death of the above

Deaths Mar 1974   (>99%)

DAVIES
 JOSEPH FRANK
 24OC1912
 BIRMINGHAM
 9C
357

I found the same result as Kath narrowing down the reg district to the one which would have covered his stated birth place.

He died in Sheffield in 1963,I have the death certificate.he was 53. I've never found a document with any middle name on it? Navy records,marriage or death certificate? I've had a look at that DOB several times,but can't prove one way or another if it's the right one? The year's wrong AND the birth quarter too?

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1364813

From above, below, if Thomas related...

Chris :)


Chris Ho :) Report Edit Delete 20 Feb 2017 09:11

(reference Navy below)

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14765893


(one on below)

Furness burials Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) THOMAS
Last name DAVIES
Age 41
Death year 1925
Burial year 1925
Burial day 19
Burial month Dec
Place DALTON-IN-FURNESS ST MARY
County Lancashire


Deaths Dec 1925 (>99%)
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Davies Thomas 41 Ulverston 8e 1005


Cumbria Death indexes for the years: 1925

DAVIES Thomas Dalton Cumbria Certificate Services D/47/299

http://www.cumbriabmd.org.uk/


http://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1364696?d=asc&page=1

(was another 'Thread' also)


DAVIES, Joseph (~, age 53).
Died at 511 Herries Road; Buried on May 7, 1963 in General ground;
Grave Number 1795, Section MM of Burngreave Cemetery, Sheffield.
Parent or Next of Kin if Available: . Remarks: Removed from Sheffield Parish.
Plot Owner: of . Page No

http://www.sheffieldindexers.com/index.html

http://www.cumbriabmd.org.uk/birthsearch.php gives mid-names of the 5 Davies-Clark(e) births rego'ed in Ulverston 1933-1943.
All were rego'ed in the Dalton subdistrict.