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Frederick was born in Aspull, Wigan 1933. His mother's maiden name was Wilding
Is it possible for someone to find out his parents Christian names
Thank you
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Births Dec 1933 (>99%)
WILSON
Frederick
Wilding
Wigan
8c
15
Births Sep 1935 (>99%)
Wilson
Rita
Wilding
Wigan
8c
44
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if someone can find him on the 1939 reg could find his parents names
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Unless he died before 1991 he will not show on the register, unless death has been confirmed. I can't see him on there
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Rita 1935 was the sister of Frederick. Other siblings were Elizabeth 1936, Jennie 1939 and Valerie 1943.
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NYX.
Frederick is still living. His wife was possibly Jane nee Rushton but not sure if she is still living.
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As there doesn't seem to be an obvious Wilding / Wilson marriage before the birth it probably comes down to buying the birth cert.
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the is a frederick with a wife jane in wigan on electrol list 2004
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This could be a possible
Frederick (Fred) Wilson on the 1939 Register
1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Wilson Household (8 People)
5 Leigh Street , Aspull U.D., Lancashire, England
Frederick (Fred) Wilson 16 Nov 1905 Male Textile Operative Werp Dresser Married 166 1
- Wilson (Lily) 05 Jul 1905 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 166 2
May Dickinson (Wilson) 29 Sep 1925 Female At School Single 166 3
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Elizabeth Woan (Summer,Wilson) 19 Dec 1936 Female Under School Age Single 166 7
Marriages Jun 1925 (>99%)
Wilding Lily Wilson Bolton 8c 962 Scan available - click to view
Wilson Frederick Wilding Bolton 8c 962
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wondered if this below is the marriage of his parents although it is at Liverpool
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1929
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
WILSON John A WILDING Phyllis M Walton on the Hill, St. John The Evangelist Liverpool 2009WD/3/371
Total records matching : 1
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Births Dec 1925 (>99%)
Wilson May Wilding Bolton 8c 573
Births Sep 1927 (>99%)
Wilson Harold Wilding Bolton 8c 522
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Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1915
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
WILSON Abraham WILDING Mary St. Thomas, Upholland Preston CE20/5/180
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Pattie, I'm assuming as your previous search has been for the Woan surname that there is a connection with the Elizabeth Wilson married name Woan on the 1939 register??
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i can see from your tree where the connection is, that is the right family in 1939, Elizabeth Wilson, married Sumner, then Woan. The K Woan you have in your tree.
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You'll really need the 1939 registter to try and confirm this - even then it's a bit problematic as there are no kids born before 1917.
Using http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/ [I've appended the qusrter of rego from FreeBMD]
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1925q2
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
WILSON Frederick WILDING Lily Bolton Register Office or Registrar Attended Bolton RO/209/171
By this date, only the RCs and newly opened non-conformists churches needed the registrar to attend with his official marr rego for the couple to sign.
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference
1925q4 WILSON May WILDING Horwich Bolton HOR/82/203
1927q3 WILSON Harold WILDING Horwich Bolton HOR/84/144
1933q4 WILSON Frederick WILDING Aspull Wigan & Leigh ASPL/77/99
1935q3 WILSON Rita WILDING Aspull Wigan & Leigh ASPL/77/385
1936 WILSON Elizabeth WILDING Aspull Wigan & Leigh ASPL/1A/65
1939q3 WILSON Jennie WILDING Aspull Wigan & Leigh ASPL/1A/364
1943q4 WILSON Valerie WILDING Aspull Wigan & Leigh ASPL/2A/311
INCE REGISTRATION DISTRICT
Created : 1.7.1936 (out of Wigan registration district).
Abolished : 1.4.1974 (to become part of Wigan, St. Helens, and West Lancashire registration districts).
Sub-districts : Ashton in Makerfield, Aspull, Hindley, Orrell, Standish.
The GRO indexes by quarter of registration, but LancsBMD indexes by year of birth, which explains the difference between:
Births Mar 1937 (>99%)
Wilson Elizabeth Wilding Ince 8c 91
and the Lancs BMD listing
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The 1939 register is the right family although I didn't know about May born 1925 and Harold 1927.
Betty (Elizabeth) was originally married to .Daniel Roy Sumner but when he died she married Keith Woan.
As I thought Frederick was the first born I didn't look much further back for the marriage of his parents.
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Betty (Elizabeth) was my sister in law who died in 1996
Many thanks to you all for your help. Greatly appreciated.
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I think you are a year out with Betty's death there is a grant of administration (with will) showing a death of 14/10/96 on this site:
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills
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1911 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWYY-ZR5
[Piece number 23340]
Event Place Westhoughton, Westhoughton, Lancashire, England
Parish Westhoughton
Sub-District Horwich
Registration District Bolton
Philip Henry Head M 55 Liverpool, Lancashire W COLLIER DALTIES UNDERGROUND
Thomas Eartwood Henry Adoptedson M 15 Liverpool, Lancashire S DRAWER COLLIER UNDERGROUND
John Wilding Son-in-law M 33 York, Lancashire M COLLIER HEWER
Ellen Wilding Daughter F 32 Goon Green Pemberton, Lancashire
Florance May Wilding Granddaughter F 8 Westhoughton, Lancashire
Lily Wilding Granddaughter F 5 Westhoughton, Lancashire
Janet Wilding Granddaughter F 3 Westhoughton, Lancashire
John Harold Wilding Grandson M 0 Westhoughton, Lancashire
Frederick Starrow Boarder M 38 Manchester, Lancashire
James Dotcherly Boarder M 26 Bolton, Lancashire
John William Henry Son M 30 Blackrod, Lancashire W COLLIER HEWER
[Goon Green Pemberton - presumably Goose Green, Pwmberton]
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1899
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
WILDING John HENRY Ellen Westhoughton, St John, Wingates Bolton 57/1/487
WILDING Thomas SEDDON Ellen Westhoughton, St John, Wingates Bolton 57/1/476
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference
1899 WILDING Theresa E HENRY Horwich Bolton HOR/42/496
1901 WILDING Elsie HENRY Horwich Bolton HOR/45/293
1902 WILDING Florence M HENRY Horwich Bolton HOR/47/416
1905 WILDING Lily HENRY Horwich Bolton HOR/54/77
1908 WILDING Janet HENRY Horwich Bolton HOR/58/210
1910 WILDING John H HENRY Horwich Bolton HOR/62/192
1913 WILDING George E HENRY Horwich Bolton HOR/66/492
1916 WILDING Elizabeth A HENRY Horwich Bolton HOR/71/167
1920 WILDING Cyril T HENRY Horwich Bolton HOR/76/258
Wr should look up all kids' deaths if they died before age 2 as the new GEO index gives their age at death in months
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1900
Surname Forename(s) Age or Date of Birth Sub-District Registers At Reference
WILDING Theresa E 0 Horwich Bolton HOR/23/108
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WILDING, THERESA ELLEN 3 Order
GRO Reference: 1900 M Quarter in BOLTON Volume 08C Page 298
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1902
Surname Forename(s) Age or Date of Birth Sub-District Registers At Reference
WILDING Elsie 1 Horwich Bolton HOR/25/266
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WILDING, ELSIE 16 Order
GRO Reference: 1902 J Quarter in BOLTON Volume 08C Page 248
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1912
Surname Forename(s) Age or Date of Birth Sub-District Registers At Reference
WILDING John H 1 Halliwell Bolton HALL/35/274
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WILDING, JOHN HENRY 19 Order
GRO Reference: 1912 J Quarter in BOLTON Volume 08C Page 433
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1878
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HENRY Philip HILLAGE Mary Frances Wigan, Register Office or Registrar Attended Wigan & Leigh ROW/47/162
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference
1878 HENRY Ellen HILLAGE Pemberton Wigan & Leigh PEM/40/163
1880 HENRY John William HILLAGE Aspull Wigan & Leigh ASPL/34/219
1882 HENRY Christopher HILLAGE Aspull Wigan & Leigh ASPL/36/284
1883 HENRY Philip HILLAGE Aspull Wigan & Leigh ASPL/37/443
1886 HENRY Margaret Elizabeth HILLAGE Aspull Wigan & Leigh ASPL/41/116
1887 HENRY Rosetta HILLAGE Aspull Wigan & Leigh ASPL/42/262
1889 HENRY Walter HILLAGE Aspull Wigan & Leigh ASPL/44/132
1891 HENRY Alfred HILLAGE Aspull Wigan & Leigh ASPL/46/129
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1904
Surname Forename(s) Age or Date of Birth Sub-District Registers At Reference
HENRY Mary 40 Horwich Bolton HOR/27/94
1891 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7WMD-X2M
Parish Blackrod
Ecclesiastical Parish ST KATHERINES
Registration District Wigan
Residence Note Scot Lane
Registration Number RG12 Piece/Folio 3048/ 23 Page Number 6
Philip Henry Head M 36 Lancashire, England M Dataler At Coal Pit
Mary Frances Henry Wife F 33 Lancashire, England M
Mary Ann Hillidge Daughter F 15 Lancashire, England House Maid
John William Henry Son M 11 Lancashire, England
Ellen Henry Daughter F 13 Lancashire, England House Maid
Christopher Henry Son M 9 Lancashire, England
[rg12/3048 is an 1891 Aspull subdistrict piece number]
1881
Event Place Blackrod, Lancashire, England
Registration District Wigan
Residence Note Wigan Road
Registration Number RG11 Piece/Folio 3760/83 Page Number 15
Phillip Henry Head M 25 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Mary Frances Henry Wife F 22 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Mary Ann Hillidge Daughter F 4 Aspull, Lancashire, England
Ellen Henry Daughter F 2 Goosegreen, Lancashire, England
John Wm Henry Son M 0 Blackrod, Lancashire, England
[rg11/3760 is an 1881 Aspull subdistrict piece number]
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Yes I am a year out with the year of death. Sorry
mgnv. Not sure that all the information belong to the same family but I will go through them an check. Thank you
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