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Linda, if you think you've hit a brickwall why not provide details of your ancestor, like ZZzzz, as I'm sure some on here would only be too happy to take a look for you afterall more eyes the better ;-)

Sorry have not been on for a few days


Herbert John wells born 1898 in Ealing middesex it’s two years before he got married to my granny and they lived in the same town
Thank for any help

Just to place him and family - mmn Heyson

1911 Census For England & Wales
38 Drayton Green West Ealing, Ealing, Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Wells Head Married Male 45 1866 Speculatory builder Ealing; Middlesex
Alice Wells Wife Married Female 44 1867 - Canada Mahone Bay
Donald Wells Son Single Male 19 1892 Carpenter Jamaica West Indies
May Wells Daughter Single Female 18 1893 - Middlesex Ealing
William Wells Son Single Male 16 1895 Pawn brokers assistant Middlesex Ealing
Stanley Wells Son - Male 14 1897 Carpenter's apprentice Middlesex Ealing
Herbert Wells Son - Male 12 1899 School Middlesex Ealing
Robert Wells Son - Male 10 1901 School Middlesex Ealing
Emma Wells Daughter - Female 8 1903 School Middlesex Ealing
George Wells Son - Male 7 1904 School Middlesex Ealing
Alice Wells Daughter - Female 5 1906 School Middlesex Ealing
Raymond Wells Son - Male 3 1908 - Middlesex Ealing
Eileen Wells Daughter - Female 2 1909 - Middlesex Ealing
Luke Wells Father Widower Male 72 1839 Carpenter Berkshire West Ilsley

Could this be him - no other Herbert J Wells born 1898 +/- 2 years England/Wales

1921 Census Of England & Wales
7, Denbigh Terrace, Kensington, London & Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
William C Cullen Head Male 1873 47 Gorleston, Norfolk, England Fathers Labourer Assistant Architict Deparment London Country Council
Rose E Cullen Wife Female 1875 46 Notting Hill, London, England Home Duties -
Charles W Cullen Son Male 1899 22 Ramsgate, Kent, England Butcher Gerrge White Butcher
Philip Cullen Son Male 1903 17 Notting Hill, London, England Gercers Assistant Out Of Work
Walter J Cullen Son Male 1905 16 Notting Hill, London, England Draper Porter Court Dressmaker Donald Mc Donald
Kathleen D Cullen Daughter Female 1909 11 Notting Hill, London, England - -
Sidney Cullen Son Male 1912 8 Notting Hill, London, England - -
Norah Cullen Daughter Female 1917 4 Notting Hill, London, England - -
Ernest E Sandell Boarder Male 1873 48 Paddington, London, England Pensioner Messenger L M Customs & Excuse
Herbert J Wells Boarder Male 1898 22 London, England Drapers Clerk Desey & Sons Drapers

EDIT - an Ancestry tree shows his marriage certificate to Gladys Nellie Langston at St John, Ealing Dean, when his occupation is said to be a Carpenter, so a change of job from 1921 ! His Father in law is a Carpenter so a possible change in 2 years ?

The 1939 register shows him as a House painter with a knowledge of carpentry. Said to be married but Nellie not there. Son Kenneth listed with him.

Thank you. Greyghost that’s him I’ve been going loopy looking for him he was a sly old fox?? didn’t talk much about his family but the only truth he told me was that his was Canadian thank you so much agan

The 1921 Ancestry record -

Name Herbert J Wells
Gender Male
Marital Status Single
Age 22 Years 8 Months
Relation to Head Boarder
Estimated Birth Year 1898
Birth Place London, England
Residence Date 1921
Residence Street Address 7 Denbigh Ter, W11
Residence Place Kensington, London, Middlesex, England
Occupation Draper's clerk
Occupation Code 939/6
Employer Desey & Sons Drapers
Employer Code 636
Place of Work High St Kensington
Inhabited Y
Ward Pembridge
Parliamentary Division Kensington Pb, North Div.
Registration district Kensington
Registration District Number 2
Sub registration district Kensington North
Sub Registration District Number 2
Respondent Mr Cullen
Enumeration District Name Kensington Mb
Enumeration District 45
Schedule 204
Schedule Type Code E
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
William C Cullen 47 Years 8 Months Head
Rose E Cullen 46 Years 1 Month Wife
Charles W Cullen 22 Years 4 Months Son
Philip Cullen 17 Years 11 Months Son
Walter J Cullen 16 Years 6 Months Son
Kathleen D Cullen 11 Years 8 Months Daughter
Sidney Cullen 8 Years 8 Months Son
Norah Cullen 4 Years 2 Months Daughter
Ernest E Sandell 48 Years 4 Months Boarder
Herbert J Wells 22 Years 8 Months Boarder

Linda, your post made me smile because my Mum used to refer to her period as Granny, she grew up in an orphanage so it was probably the way of the world back then. :-)

Actually we always called them nanny but I thought it might sound a bit babish I didn’t know my Irish nan very well only remember seeing her once but know I was taken over when I was a baby I know the Irish side did not want the marriage because my dad was English going back to my English grandad the job he had in the 1921 cencus was one of many on al the birth certificates of his children he had different ones and when I was a child I remember them both working in Hoovers